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  • MMA_scientist
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 9857

    #31
    Re: Boxing play

    Originally posted by SPX
    Originally posted by Luke
    I mean jesus look at Vera ,the guy has all the talent in the world but is completely wasting it by being a pussy and a tard.To me thats a bum not the local guy who busts his ass and does the best he can with what he has
    Honestly, I think that Vera's abilities have been overestimated ever since he knocked out Mir.

    I think he's a solid and respectable fighter, hovering somewhere between mid and high-level. I don't hate because I think he's doing the best he can.
    Just a side note, but someone told me that Vera's former trainer said that he will never live up to his potential because he is a massive stoner.
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    • SPX
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 23875

      #32
      Re: Boxing play

      Originally posted by MMA_scientist
      Just a side note, but someone told me that Vera's former trainer said that he will never live up to his potential because he is a massive stoner.
      Interesting.

      I have never heard that, but I wouldn't really doubt it.
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      • Mr. IWS
        215 Hustler
        • Sep 2006
        • 99903

        #33
        Re: Boxing play

        Originally posted by SPX

        So what exactly IS a good style against Silva?
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        • zY|
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 8385

          #34
          Re: Boxing play

          Originally posted by SPX
          Originally posted by IWS Zak
          I like Belchers style, he attacks. Not good against Silva.
          So what exactly IS a good style against Silva? Not attacking doesn't work. Attacking doesn't work.

          I imagine beating Silva will take someone who attacks, but attacks BETTER than the man himself. Or perhaps a counter-puncher like Machida, but the problem there is that Silva won't attack unless you come at him first.
          Being a counter fighter doesn't necessarily mean you just stand there and wait. You can always come in close and force your opponent to react, then counter him.

          As far as beating Silva, I think you're going to need someone who can outstrike him that he can't beat on the ground or in the clinch(unlikely anytime soon) or someone quick enough and well rounded enough to make him respect their striking so they can take him down and hurt him there and not get submitted. I think GSP can beat him this way(although size is an issue), and I think Shogun would school him on the mat and is skilled, quick, savvy and tough enough to get it there. As far as MWs go, I'm not seeing anyone right now that has a realistic shot.

          That's my shitty opinion.
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          • SPX
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 23875

            #35
            Re: Boxing play

            Originally posted by zY|
            As far as MWs go, I'm not seeing anyone right now that has a realistic shot.
            I'm not saying he WILL win, but I genuinely think that this man has a "realistic shot":


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            • zY|
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 8385

              #36
              Re: Boxing play

              I guess he has as good a chance as anyone. Don't be surprised when things don't go his way and he gives up, though.
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              • Mr. IWS
                215 Hustler
                • Sep 2006
                • 99903

                #37
                Re: Boxing play

                I think Vitor could do it at MW, thats about it. But I can see him flaking out and mailing it in.

                At Light heavy, I think Shogun is probably the only guy. I dont think Machida could do it.
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                • SPX
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 23875

                  #38
                  Re: Boxing play

                  Originally posted by zY|
                  I guess he has as good a chance as anyone. Don't be surprised when things don't go his way and he gives up, though.
                  I wouldn't say "as good a chance as anyone" . . . I'd say "a better chance than most" solely because he has the speed and power to land just the right punch. Who else can we say that about that Silva's fought?
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                  • zY|
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 8385

                    #39
                    Re: Boxing play

                    Sonnen can hold him down and beat him up. So could Henderson. Maia could've submitted him. Lots of guys have ways to beat him. I just don't think Vitors path is any more likely.
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                    • poopoo333
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                      • Jan 2010
                      • 18302

                      #40
                      Re: Boxing play

                      I honestly think GSP would beat Silva.

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                      • MMA_scientist
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 9857

                        #41
                        Re: Boxing play

                        Originally posted by poopoo333
                        I honestly think GSP would beat Silva.
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                        • Mr. IWS
                          215 Hustler
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 99903

                          #42
                          Re: Boxing play

                          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                          Originally posted by poopoo333
                          I honestly think GSP would beat Silva.
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                          • MMA_scientist
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 9857

                            #43
                            Re: Boxing play

                            ^^ totally. We haven't seen GSP's shot stuffed yet. We have seen Silva get taken down. So in this case, I think GSP's unstoppable force is greater than Silva's immoveable object.
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                            • Mr. IWS
                              215 Hustler
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 99903

                              #44
                              Re: Boxing play

                              Fair enough.

                              It goes without saying, we ALL want to see that one bad. I think if they win their next couple fights, it will happen. I think Silva wins, and would bet him, but I wouldnt be totally shocked if GSP won.
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                              • Luke
                                10 year vet
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 30060

                                #45
                                Re: Boxing play

                                Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                                Originally posted by poopoo333
                                I honestly think GSP would beat Silva.
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