UFC on Versus 2 odds

[SPX]

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LOL

If you weren't paying attention, then you better check yoself before you wreck yoself, bi-i-itch.
By 'everyone' clearly you mean Shertards.

I said Muay Thai because that's what the man fucking trains. If you step, you best step correct, nigga.

LOL

Well shit, I stand corrected.

[zY|]

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The value was with Munoz... but he is a moron. He should listen to his corner and let his hands fly.

Anyway. +2.72

Being a moron should factor into your handicapping. There was value on Munoz only because of shoddy judging.

[Luke]

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thats funny

I find it funny SPX defends TKD,MMAscientist is uber gay defening BJJ and I kickboxed and could give a shit less what anyone says about it.

That's because you didn't give a fuck about san shou. You wanted to box and you didn't like the grappling aspect.

You're right I didnt really care for San shou but I loved straight Kickboxing which was most the classes I took.I never once fought a San shou rules match at an event,just straight kickboxing.That doesnt mean I need to defend kickboxing like its the greatest thing on earth

[Luke]

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Guys I was right.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/herb-d ... t-1295303/

wow just wow.


overall what % of the guys over there are like that?

[SPX]

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You're right I didnt really care for San shou but I loved straight Kickboxing which was most the classes I took.I never once fought a San shou rules match at an event,just straight kickboxing.That doesnt mean I need to defend kickboxing like its the greatest thing on earth

If I defend TKD, then that's because I think it's misunderstood. It's been gayed up by being watered down, and by being turned into something that everyone can do.

When it was first formulated by General Choi, it was a serious fighting system. The way it's taught and trained today by the ROK army, it's still a serious fighting system.

I'll be the first to admit that a lot of TKD practitioners can't fight for shit, but I blame the schools and instructors who have lost the essence of the style.

[Luke]

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The value was with Munoz... but he is a moron. He should listen to his corner and let his hands fly.

Anyway. +2.72

Great night MMAscientist

[Luke]

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If I defend TKD, then that's because I think it's misunderstood. It's been gayed up by being watered down, and by being turned into something that everyone can do.

When it was first formulated by General Choi, it was a serious fighting system. The way it's taught and trained today by the ROK army, it's still a serious fighting system.

I'll be the first to admit that a lot of TKD practitioners can't fight for shit, but I blame the schools and instructors who have lost the essence of the style.

LOL I'm just fucking with ya man

When you start saying guys that only train TKD will be UFC champions then I'll be serious

I was just pulling your string

The videos you post about TKD have got me to watch more TKD than I have ever seen

[Svino]

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[quote=zY|]

The value was with Munoz... but he is a moron. He should listen to his corner and let his hands fly.

Anyway. +2.72

Being a moron should factor into your handicapping. There was value on Munoz only because of shoddy judging.[/quote:1vlzysej]

To be fair, we could also argue that shoddy judging should also factor into handicapping. It's not like judges that do little except count takedowns are rare. Thinking back on it, I probably should have been less shocked that someone have him round 1.

[SPX]

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LOL I'm just fucking with ya man

When you start saying guys that only train TKD will be UFC champions then I'll be serious

I was just pulling your string

The videos you post about TKD have got me to watch more TKD than I have ever seen

Ha ha. Cool.

Well I only post the good shit. It's a shame that you can't expect the same level of skill and training in a typical school.

[zY|]

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[quote=Svino]

The value was with Munoz... but he is a moron. He should listen to his corner and let his hands fly.

Anyway. +2.72

Being a moron should factor into your handicapping. There was value on Munoz only because of shoddy judging.

To be fair, we could also argue that shoddy judging should also factor into handicapping. It's not like judges that do little except count takedowns are rare. Thinking back on it, I probably should have been less shocked that someone have him round 1.[/quote:3g0078up]

You're right, but I don't think to automatically factor that in is very sound. Perhaps if we knew which judges were judging which fights beforehand.

[MMA_scientist]

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[quote=zY|]

Being a moron should factor into your handicapping. There was value on Munoz only because of shoddy judging.

To be fair, we could also argue that shoddy judging should also factor into handicapping. It's not like judges that do little except count takedowns are rare. Thinking back on it, I probably should have been less shocked that someone have him round 1.

You're right, but I don't think to automatically factor that in is very sound. Perhaps if we knew which judges were judging which fights beforehand.[/quote:2ggtrlbv]

Even without shoddy judging, Munoz had value. I think the fight was scored correctly by 2 judges 29-28... but its not like Okami did anything in round 1 either. The fight was close. Even if Okami won round 1, it was still a close round. Okami @ -200, while it worked out, was the wrong play.

Munoz has not indicated in the past that he would keep trying something that clearly was not working... so I had no reason to factor it in.

[zY|]

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Munoz has not indicated in the past that he would keep trying something that clearly was not working... so I had no reason to factor it in.

Fair.

[Luke]

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I agree even though it won Okami at -200 was a bad play.

I think Munoz instead of being a tard and keep going for the takedown should have tried to KO Okami in the second.I really think he was hurt and Munoz let him off the hook

[zY|]

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http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/8/1/160 ... -jon-jones

More evidence that Jonathan Snowden is a complete dumbass/possible troll.

[Svino]

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You're right, but I don't think to automatically factor that in is very sound. Perhaps if we knew which judges were judging which fights beforehand.

Yeah, I would love a resource that listed the scoring records of judges and posted which ones would be at which event.

As for the betting value, I think Okami showed that he could generally outstrike Munoz and resist his takedowns, and while I expected those gaps to be a little bigger, we still had the situation where Munoz's only real hope was to end the fight with a power-bomb against a better striker. Not a great situation for him. At -200, I might bet on Okami again. I'm still going to have to think of Munoz as a guy who is dangerously close to being 1-4 in the UFC. If the UFC doesn't want to have to cut him, they'll need to feed him some guys with weaker takedown defense.

Other note: Earlier, Okami has stressed his gameplan of taking Munoz down and pounding him out, so remember to file him in the category of "not stupid enough to tell the truth in pre-fight interviews".