2010 Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

[Luke]

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Shotokan vs Kyokushin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBTVhbL3jGs

[SPX]

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^^ that was hilarious. The comment on the vid is pretty funny too

That kick was fast and smooth as fuck. I don't know why we don't see more shit like that in MMA.

[MMA_scientist]

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^^ that was hilarious. The comment on the vid is pretty funny too

That kick was fast and smooth as fuck. I don't know why we don't see more shit like that in MMA.

Because it is low percentage. It is the same reason we don't see a lot of big awesome looking throws. It works, but its not worth the risk that it will fail, which it probably will. At least that is the common wisdom. But you see guys spin around after missing a leg kick all the time... so I sort of buy you line that it just is not trained enough/properly.

There are exceptions- Cung Le, Karo

[SPX]

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Because it is low percentage. It is the same reason we don't see a lot of big awesome looking throws. It works, but its not worth the risk that it will fail, which it probably will. At least that is the common wisdom. But you see guys spin around after missing a leg kick all the time... so I sort of buy you line that it just is not trained enough/properly.

There are exceptions- Cung Le, Karo

I know that Jon Jones was asked about the "low percentage" moves that he does like the spinning elbow and he said, "They're not low percentage if you train them everyday."

I think that if you become fast and accurate with a kick like that, then even if it doesn't land, you're not in any real danger against most opponents because you're back in your fighting stance before the other guy has a chance to do anything about it. Like you said, guys spin around all the time when they miss a kick, and they're usually pretty slow about it.

[MMA_scientist]

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I know that Jon Jones was asked about the "low percentage" moves that he does like the spinning elbow and he said, "They're not low percentage if you train them everyday."

I think that if you become fast and accurate with a kick like that, then even if it doesn't land, you're not in any real danger against most opponents because you're back in your fighting stance before the other guy has a chance to do anything about it. Like you said, guys spin around all the time when they miss a kick, and they're usually pretty slow about it.

My HS wrestling coach was all about the basics... he hated "low percentage" stuff. BUt part of why I like grappling is the personal expression aspect. I like to use grappling as a creative outlet...

so I always ignored him. I ffound that even in wrestling, if you drill a move and practice the setups for it, you can make it work. You see it all the time, some guy will win a State title throwing headlocks. When the rest of were told that they didn't work on anyone past jr high. Whatever you drill will work, I am convinved of that. They key is drilling it against resistance.

[Svino]

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Like you said, guys spin around all the time when they miss a kick, and they're usually pretty slow about it.

Usually that happens when a guy aims a hard kick at his opponent, but the opponent has backed away. In that case, the distance means they have all the time in the world to turn around.

I think that most of the time, a guy who tried a spinning kick that high would get put on the ground right away in MMA. Maybe a guy who didn't mind being there like Maia or Jacare could get away with it.

I ffound that even in wrestling, if you drill a move and practice the setups for it, you can make it work. You see it all the time, some guy will win a State title throwing headlocks. When the rest of were told that they didn't work on anyone past jr high. Whatever you drill will work, I am convinved of that. They key is drilling it against resistance.

Rubber-guard gogoplata 4 life!

I do get what your saying, I just think most trainers look at their guys and see fundamentals that need a lot of work. So they don't want them sinking their training in low-% stuff. In his fight with Frye, Mark Hall would have been much better served by training his takedown defense, than practicing his spinning-back-kick a zillion times.

[MMA_scientist]

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Rubber-guard gogoplata 4 life!

I meant all non-pointless techniques.

[MMA_scientist]

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I do get what your saying, I just think most trainers look at their guys and see fundamentals that need a lot of work. So they don't want them sinking their training in low-% stuff. In his fight with Frye, Mark Hall would have been much better served by training his takedown defense, than practicing his spinning-back-kick a zillion times.

You can take it to an extreme. I just mean that lesser utilized techniques can be effective... but you still have to train your whole game. But like when you say Hall should have trained his takedown defense... in my view, the traditional sprawl, whizzer/underhooks defense is probably not much more effective than training a different takedown defense, like a neck whip (aka a crackdown). If I spend countless hours practicing the neck whip (or russian grip harai goshi, like Karo used on Burkman), I can probably use it almost as effectively (or maybe even moreso).

I don't mean you should just give up training specific parts of your game. In any event, you have to have solid basics before you can really experiment.

[SPX]

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Spin kick used in an MMA fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOybvLnC45M

[Luke]

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Just seen Manute Bol died today at the age of 47. From what I've always heard he was a really good guy

[Luke]

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Spin kick used in an MMA fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOybvLnC45M

At least he blocked it with his head

[zY|]

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Just seen Manute Bol died today at the age of 47. From what I've always heard he was a really good guy

wtf gay!

Manute Bol was the shit.

RIP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaLCju0CQ3c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gpya5OTOnM

[Mr. IWS]

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Manute was the fuckin shit! RIP you big muthasucka.

[SPX]

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Absolutely devastating combo at 4:25:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0wRqR9J8WA

[Mr. IWS]

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I was bored.........

http://web.archive.org/web/200611080112 ... ports.com/

Forum was like 2 months old there.