UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

[SPX]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

Well I was referring to his 5 fights AFTER that one. Like it or not, pretty clearly he whooped Jens' ass.

Lucky punch.

Jens should've rematched Garcia instead of fighting Vazquez.

Besides, he hasn't had 5 fights since then. He's had 3.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

I am betting Gunderson for sure.

I will probably also be on Leben and Jardine. Maybe McSweeney for value.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

I was going to put 0.25u on all the dogs. Now I am just thinking about Siver, Holst, Mcsweeney, and Leben. I might bet more on Siver, I think he will probably win. I have a unit on Jardine already.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

I was going to put 0.25u on all the dogs. Now I am just thinking about Siver, Holst, Mcsweeney, and Leben. I might bet more on Siver, I think he will probably win. I have a unit on Jardine already.

Holst is going down.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

Leben is a bad bet IMO. His best chance is to KO Aaron Simpson standing unless he can sub him on the ground which would be suprising.. Aaron took a helluva lot of bombs from Tom lawlor in the first round of their fight if anyone else saw that. He has a GOOD chin. Also he is in good good shape or was at least for his last fight.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

Leben is a bad bet IMO. His best chance is to KO Aaron Simpson standing unless he can sub him on the ground which would be suprising.. Aaron took a helluva lot of bombs from Tom lawlor in the first round of their fight if anyone else saw that. He has a GOOD chin. Also he is in good good shape or was at least for his last fight.

I think he might be able to stuff the takedowns later in the fight. I also wouldn't be shocked to see him pull out a sub, he has done it before. Leben's bjj is not that bad. He has pretty good defensive skills on the ground.

Leben hits hella harder than Lawler. That Simpson fight was the first time Lawlor displayed any striking at all. It was surprising, but not on Leben's level, at least in terms of power.

It is going to a decision most likely if Simpson wins... with the current odds, I think there is value. Though I would still say Simpson is the favorite based on what Rosholt did to Leben. I am going to be making a very small bet, maybe enough to just win half a unit.

[zY|]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

I've bet on Leben twice and he's lost twice. Never again.

[ManBoobKilla]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

1U on camozzi @ -130
1U on Attonito @ -110

[AC88]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

I'm not impressed with Leben and I think Simpson should dominate. No bet because Simpson is too heavy of a favorite for me.

[SPX]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

I've bet on Leben twice and he's lost twice. Never again.

So a fighter who loses two fights is incapable of ever winning again?

[zY|]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

I've bet on Leben twice and he's lost twice. Never again.

So a fighter who loses two fights is incapable of ever winning again?

Yes, SPX. That's exactly what I said.

And I just bet on a bunch of guys who are probably going to lose.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

off the top of my head. Simpson is much bigger and stronger than Leben. I know he is a much better wrestler as well. Should be an easy takedown.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

Leben has 4 submission wins in his career. 3 of them were within his first year or so of training, like 7 years ago. Since then he submitted edwin dewees....he isnt going to be as good on the ground as aaron simpson. He is just some tough as dude that got into mma that likes to slug it out. he has to knock out aaron simpson to win which will be hard. Lawlor may not hit as hard as leben but he def hit simpson hard as fuck and simpson weathered the storm. I'm all simpson on this but, yes the line does suck.

[Ludo]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

Yes but Lawlor gassed out after the first and barely survived the next two rounds. Leben has a much better gas tank, and much harder strikes, not to mention his sprawl is very good. I can see Leben sprawl n brawling Simpson to a decision win or a TKO. That said I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Simpson get a takedown and pounding Leben to a TKO win himself.

[SPX]

Re: UFC: The Ultimate Fighter 11 Finale - Jun 19th 2010

^^^ Ludo, that girl seriously looks like she is getting raped.