UFC 120 England Oct 16th

[Ludo]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

1.75u to win 1u on Hardy.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Bisping isn't subbing Akiyama unless he gets real damn lucky. That Leben thing is a fluke. Akiyama was tired as hell, he barely knew what was going on. That isn't going to happen to him this time.

Akiyama is a Asian games Gold Medalist. Judo.

Another important point here that I would like to bring up is this(sidenote): Leben was able to stop Aaron Simpson from taking him down..I consider that pretty damn good takedown D. Akiyama took down Leben a total of 4 times in that fight.

Now Akiyama is training with Jackson and he claims he is learning more about how to fight a 3 round fight and he is learning more about MMA style takedowns. This should be the best Akiyama we have seen.

I'm not saying Akiyama can't lose because Bisping is a good fighter but Akiyama and Bisping should be fairly even on the feet..So Akiyama just needs to land a takedown or two in 2 of the 3 rounds and he should get the "W" if it goes to D.

BTW:
I dont see Bisping ko'ing or subbing Akiyama..
I would not be shocked if Akiyama sub'd bisping though I think its unlikely. I feel the same way about Ak Ko'ing Bisping though overall, i feel Akiyama has a much better chance of ending the fight.

[Ludo]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Bisping isn't subbing Akiyama unless he gets real damn lucky. That Leben thing is a fluke. Akiyama was tired as hell, he barely knew what was going on. That isn't going to happen to him this time.

Akiyama is a Asian games Gold Medalist. Judo.

Another important point here that I would like to bring up is this(sidenote): Leben was able to stop Aaron Simpson from taking him down..I consider that pretty damn good takedown D. Akiyama took down Leben a total of 4 times in that fight.

Now Akiyama is training with Jackson and he claims he is learning more about how to fight a 3 round fight and he is learning more about MMA style takedowns. This should be the best Akiyama we have seen.

I'm not saying Akiyama can't lose because Bisping is a good fighter but Akiyama and Bisping should be fairly even on the feet..So Akiyama just needs to land a takedown or two in 2 of the 3 rounds and he should get the "W" if it goes to D.

BTW:
I dont see Bisping ko'ing or subbing Akiyama..
I would not be shocked if Akiyama sub'd bisping though I think its unlikely. I feel the same way about Ak Ko'ing Bisping though overall, i feel Akiyama has a much better chance of ending the fight.

So if Leben can take advantage of a totally gassed Akiyama how is it Bisping, who is known for phenomenal footwork and a style that makes his opponents chase him while he floats in and out, won't? Leben was also very tired by the time he snagged that triangle. Bisping won't be gassed out like either of them were. Akiyama gassed against Belcher as well don't forget. Bisping by sub IS unlikely because he doesn't go for many subs at all, even while in a great position for it(see Bisping/Sinosic). Leben has a great sprawl, but Akiyama didn't go for the double leg, he used throws and trips to take Leben down pretty much every time. We will likely see a decision due mostly to Akiyama's durability but he will gas, thats pretty much a certainty at this point. You don't improve your cardio by leaps and bounds in two months.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

You don't improve your cardio by leaps and bounds in two months.

You'd be surprised what you can do in 2 months.

I was in the Army Reserve for a bit when I was younger and when I went into basic my cardio was absolute shit. The first time I was told to run two miles it took me almost 19 minutes and after the first couple of laps I was doing like a sort of run/jog thing that was embarrassing. By the end, I thought I was going to die.

After about a month and a half, I turned in my best time in the 2 mile at 14 minutes flat--jogging hard the whole way--and, even though we were never told exactly how far we were running on any given day, I'm positive that by the end on regular training (i.e. non-testing) days we were going a good bit farther than 2 miles, which would have killed me when I first started.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Bisping isn't subbing Akiyama unless he gets real damn lucky. That Leben thing is a fluke. Akiyama was tired as hell, he barely knew what was going on. That isn't going to happen to him this time.

Akiyama is a Asian games Gold Medalist. Judo.

Another important point here that I would like to bring up is this(sidenote): Leben was able to stop Aaron Simpson from taking him down..I consider that pretty damn good takedown D. Akiyama took down Leben a total of 4 times in that fight.

Now Akiyama is training with Jackson and he claims he is learning more about how to fight a 3 round fight and he is learning more about MMA style takedowns. This should be the best Akiyama we have seen.

I'm not saying Akiyama can't lose because Bisping is a good fighter but Akiyama and Bisping should be fairly even on the feet..So Akiyama just needs to land a takedown or two in 2 of the 3 rounds and he should get the "W" if it goes to D.

BTW:
I dont see Bisping ko'ing or subbing Akiyama..
I would not be shocked if Akiyama sub'd bisping though I think its unlikely. I feel the same way about Ak Ko'ing Bisping though overall, i feel Akiyama has a much better chance of ending the fight.

So if Leben can take advantage of a totally gassed Akiyama how is it Bisping, who is known for phenomenal footwork and a style that makes his opponents chase him while he floats in and out, won't? Leben was also very tired by the time he snagged that triangle. Bisping won't be gassed out like either of them were. Akiyama gassed against Belcher as well don't forget. Bisping by sub IS unlikely because he doesn't go for many subs at all, even while in a great position for it(see Bisping/Sinosic). Leben has a great sprawl, but Akiyama didn't go for the double leg, he used throws and trips to take Leben down pretty much every time. We will likely see a decision due mostly to Akiyama's durability but he will gas, thats pretty much a certainty at this point. You don't improve your cardio by leaps and bounds in two months.

Well a couple of things here. First off, chasing bisping doesn't make you as tired as getting slammed by Lebens punches. Yes the sub is unlikely. I think you can increase your cardio in the span of a couple of months, he also had a long layoff. Simply not being in a cage for a long time doesn't help. It has also been 3.5 months since his last fight. July 3.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

You don't improve your cardio by leaps and bounds in two months.

There's a reason they call it "training camp". Some of these dudes are fucking fat as shit and completely out of shape pre-camp.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

rampage jackson weighed 250 before his fight with rashad. Fatty.

[Ludo]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

rampage jackson weighed 250 before his fight with rashad. Fatty.

He also had to put on extra weight to play in the A Team. He doesn't normally weigh 250.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

So if Leben can take advantage of a totally gassed Akiyama how is it Bisping, who is known for phenomenal footwork and a style that makes his opponents chase him while he floats in and out, won't? Leben was also very tired by the time he snagged that triangle. Bisping won't be gassed out like either of them were. Akiyama gassed against Belcher as well don't forget. Bisping by sub IS unlikely because he doesn't go for many subs at all, even while in a great position for it(see Bisping/Sinosic). Leben has a great sprawl, but Akiyama didn't go for the double leg, he used throws and trips to take Leben down pretty much every time. We will likely see a decision due mostly to Akiyama's durability but he will gas, thats pretty much a certainty at this point. You don't improve your cardio by leaps and bounds in two months.

Well Bisping will not get into a slugfest with Akiyama like Leben did, which made Akiyama gas so bad. If Bisping wins, it will be by decision. Akiyama via (T)KO is +886. I like that.

[ctm0808]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Well from the sounds of things I'll be needing more luck than I figured to hit that Bisping via sub bet.

That's okay, you guys'll see. Bisping by guillotine choke, late round 2. A straight-up Akiyama victory would be alright I suppose.. My card's looking like:

Akiyama 1u to win 2u
Kongo 1.8u to win 1u
Diabate 1.02u to win 1u
Bisping by sub .5u to win 7.5u

That sub bet is this forum's fault, by the way. I've gotten hooked on those big plus-money lines since putting a full unit on Anderson by sub +698, after seeing the very generous line pointed out by someone on this forum. I remember it dropped to like +280 or something.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

That sub bet is this forum's fault, by the way. I've gotten hooked on those big plus-money lines since putting a full unit on Anderson by sub +698, after seeing the very generous line pointed out by someone on this forum. I remember it dropped to like +280 or something.

That was me, I hit it @+694.

[ctm0808]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

That sub bet is this forum's fault, by the way. I've gotten hooked on those big plus-money lines since putting a full unit on Anderson by sub +698, after seeing the very generous line pointed out by someone on this forum. I remember it dropped to like +280 or something.

That was me, I hit it @+694.

694, that was the number.

And good call!

[SPX]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Don't congratulate PP on ANYTHING.

You'll only encourage him. . .

[Thewiseman]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Increasing my unit size x4
Parlay,
Hardy
Kongo
Patrick
Hathaway
Maldonado
.25u to win 1.42u

Akiyama 1.5u to win 2.75u

[ctm0808]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Sherdog's "Akiyama Fight ‘Means Everything’ to Bisping" front-page article features a picture of Bisping attempting an armbar on Denis Kang. Good omen.