Dream 15

[poopoo333]

Rumored card:
- Shinya Aoki vs. Tatsuya Kawajiri
- Gesias "JZ" Cavalcante vs. Katsunori Kikuno
- Alistair Overeem vs. TBA
Light-heavyweight grand prix opening round
- Melvin Manhoef vs. Tatsuya Mizuno
- Gegard Mousasi vs. Jake O'Brien

[Luke]

Re: Dream 15

Another reason of the many to like Strikeforce more than the UFC. They let their fighters fight in other promotions rather than signing your life away with the UFC

Good card would like to see it if these things werent on at 3am

[Ludo]

Re: Dream 15

Yeah, the problem with that is it can prove more hassle than it's worth. Case in point: Overeem and the Heavyweight title. two years between title defenses and it left Strikeforce in the lurch. Yes it has been substantiated that he was in fact injured during the time in which he was supposed to be fighting in Strikeforce, but I cannot help but wonder if he would have been injured had he not been competing in K-1 and Dream instead.

Also, imagine what would happen to the belts already limited credibility if Overeem had lost outside Strikeforce. All of a sudden the belt means nothing because the Champion lost outside the organization.

[Svino]

Re: Dream 15

All of a sudden the belt means nothing

It's a good point, but I don't think that particular belt has meant anything for a while now.

[Ludo]

Re: Dream 15

I know that, but you get the point. You can substitute it with the Light Heavyweight, Middleweight, Welterweight, or Lightweight belt for added effect. It's a generous business practice but in the long run thats alot of variables to account for when it comes to your champions.

[Svino]

Re: Dream 15

It's a generous business practice but in the long run thats alot of variables to account for when it comes to your champions.

True. I kind of see it as: smaller promotions helping each other out so that they can all compete better with the evil UFC empire. The difference between the way Dream, Sengoku, and Strikeforce treat each other and the way the UFC treats rival top promotions is amazing.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: Dream 15

I thought they cancelled the Ubereem fight?

[SPX]

Re: Dream 15

It's a good point about the belt meaning something. I mean, how much of a champion does Zaromskis look like now after getting knocked out twice in a row in another promotion?

[zY|]

Re: Dream 15

Cardspace is the major reason for copromoting. Dream is just happy to get these guys fights so they'll stfu while dream is off sucking it's own cock.

Same with Strikeforce.

[Luke]

Re: Dream 15

It's a good point about the belt meaning something. I mean, how much of a champion does Zaromskis look like now after getting knocked out twice in a row in another promotion?

that he was overrated to begin with

[Luke]

Re: Dream 15

Alistair Overeem vs. Ricco Rodriguez

[zY|]

Re: Dream 15

LOL, back to can crushing!

[Luke]

Re: Dream 15

LOL, back to can crushing!

Thats former UFC HW champ to you.

Last I seen Ricco he had lost alot of weight and was about 220 pounds. Whether he still is I dont know(that was about 8 months ago)

[AC88]

Re: Dream 15

LOL, back to can crushing!

seconded. Overoids > Riccoroids.

[Svino]

Re: Dream 15

Alistair Overeem vs. Ricco Rodriguez

Meh. Probably couldn't have hoped for much more from Dream. Considering that Barnett's fighting elsewhere and I doubt they're bringing in Aleks.