UFC 119 Sept 25th

[brooks85]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

well the first round of Barry/CC was no where near to a competitive fight. And all that barry needed was speed, that was it, it wasn't technique that was beating CC. Then, barry broke his hand and foot, then it became a competitive fight. Mir is not a top striker but he is very technical and does have speed. Mir might not be faster than barry but fast enough for the obviously aging CC.

[Svino]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

I'm picking Cro-Cop in this fight, also. If he comes in as a big dog, I'll be betting on him heavily.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Devils advocate question:

Would you guys like Cro Cop in this fight if he never fought Pat Barry?

[Svino]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Devils advocate question:

Would you guys like Cro Cop in this fight if he never fought Pat Barry?

Yeah. I wouldn't say we learned that much from the Barry fight, actually. Mir is a great matchup for Cro Cop though. I think Cro Cop still has the ability to sprawl-and-brawl well. Does the fact that Cro Cop was outstruck by Kongo, Overeem and JDS mean he will be outstruck by Mir? I doubt it.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

He won't be outstruck by mir. No way. He might get bullied around the cage or taken down though. Mir can submit him also. That is a problem.

[Ludo]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Mir's takedowns suck ass, his only methods of getting this fight to the ground would be if he pulled guard or knocked Mirko down with strikes.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Gotta copy someone from SD.

Break down Mirko. Mir KO.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Mir doesn't have the chops to takedown CC. The only question is if CC can still strike. He hasn't really outstruck anyone lately... and apparently Mir can strike now. Style-wise, CC could not hope for a better fight. The only issue is if Mir can actually beat him standing.

I will be on CC @ +180

[Svino]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

^^^^^ I completely agree. I'd say that this is Cro Cop's chance to beat a relevant HW again. If he doesn't get this one, he either needs to retire completely or stick to the senior-league fights.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

^^^ I agree with the last two posts .I said if Mir is -200 or more I'm all over Cro Cop .



The Barry fight has no bearing on my decision. Barry is a fast striker,Mir is not . Even if C.C had been beat by Barry that doesnt mean he still wouldnt beat Mir

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

When was the last time Mirko actually looked good and wrecked someone good on the feet? Barnett back in 2006?

Barry - Getting lit the fuck up until Barry fell apart
Peroush - Nigga please
JDS - He hung in there, ill give him that.
Al-Turk - Nigga please
Hong man - LOLSRSLY
Ubereem - who can blame him
Mizuno - what?
Kongo - he got beat down
Gonzaga - nuff said
Sanchez - nigga please
Barnett - He fuckin wrecked Barnett

I know im the resident Mir nuthugger, and Im probably not gonna bet the fight anyway, but I dont see Cro Cop having the chops to KO anyone above can status anymore. He hasnt proved that he can do it in over 4 years.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Cro cop didnt look bad against JDS,in fact he fought the best fight against him so far of anyone in the UFC. JDS would wreck Mir in under a round imo

I know he didnt beat him

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Cro cop didnt look bad against JDS,in fact he fought the best fight against him so far of anyone in the UFC. JDS would wreck Mir in under a round imo

I know he didnt beat him

I feel you on that. Im just saying, it seems like everyone, not just at IWS, seem to think Cro Cop, and automatically assume he will LHK Mir's wig off. He hasnt done that shit in years. I mean, the best he looked the last couple years, was getting the shit beat out of him by JDS, but hanging in there. To me, thats not saying much.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Cro cop didnt look bad against JDS,in fact he fought the best fight against him so far of anyone in the UFC. JDS would wreck Mir in under a round imo

I know he didnt beat him

I feel you on that. Im just saying, it seems like everyone, not just at IWS, seem to think Cro Cop, and automatically assume he will LHK Mir's wig off. He hasnt done that shit in years. I mean, the best he looked the last couple years, was getting the shit beat out of him by JDS, but hanging in there. To me, thats not saying much.

I don't think he will LHK Mir's wig off. I just think he will win the striking and be able to avoid getting put on his back and held there.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

I think this is one of those fights where, after Mir wins, it will be like; "Cro Cop is an old man, best days are long behind him, he is washed up." Kind of like Mir/Nog 1

Nog can cry all he wants about staff. He looked like shit against Herring and Sylvia, got exterminated by Mir, and continued to look like shit after.