UFC 125

[edman5555]

Oh for the record, I almost bet Gray via TKO. I was pretty spot on for that one, it easily could have been stopped. It didn't suprise me that Gray got the better of the stand up. He has some power in his hands and he has dropped people before. He probably would have done better in the later rounds if he didn't throw so many in the first.

[edman5555]

That was Grays first 5 round title fight. He might come back in better form like Frankie did his second time around. I think it is a learning experience doing it for the first time. If Gray had any jitters I would bet they are gone now.

[Luke]

^^ I don't know about all of that. I mean, it is not Gray's fault they let Frankie fight Sherk and made him fight Diaz. I think Gray would probably kick Sherk's ass too. I agree Gray didn't look great against Diaz, but he did drop in the first IIRC. To me, Gray was more impressive than Edgar in this fight. Yeah, Frankie won 3 rounds to 2... but it is not like he kicked Gray's ass in those rounds. I mean one solid shot by either guy would have won those rounds. That fight could have easily been stopped in round 1. And if I was scoring the fight as a whole, as in who got the better of it over the whole 25 mins, Gray won. I understand that is a matter of opinion... but I think it is wrong that Frankie leap frogged Gray for the title shot. BJ would beat Gray IMO though.

Agree with everything you said

[zY|]

I think Frankie will dominate in the rematch.

I can understand the Frankie getting a title shot over Gray argument, but it's not like either guy just lost their last fight in the WEC.

[MMA_scientist]

But then again, had Maynard not punched himself out in round 1, the other rounds light have gone differently... So I don't know. Maybe I would bet Gray. I think he lost mostly on Frankie being in superior shape... But Gray might have continued to dominate him had he not sprinted in the first round.

[MMA_scientist]

I wouldn't bet it. But gun to head, I would probably bet Edgar. But in that particular fight, I was more impressed by what Gray did. But I understand what you are saying.

[SPX]

Well let me as you this, who would you bet in the rematch if the line's even?

[MMA_scientist]

^^ I don't know about all of that. I mean, it is not Gray's fault they let Frankie fight Sherk and made him fight Diaz. I think Gray would probably kick Sherk's ass too. I agree Gray didn't look great against Diaz, but he did drop in the first IIRC. To me, Gray was more impressive than Edgar in this fight. Yeah, Frankie won 3 rounds to 2... but it is not like he kicked Gray's ass in those rounds. I mean one solid shot by either guy would have won those rounds. That fight could have easily been stopped in round 1. And if I was scoring the fight as a whole, as in who got the better of it over the whole 25 mins, Gray won. I understand that is a matter of opinion... but I think it is wrong that Frankie leap frogged Gray for the title shot. BJ would beat Gray IMO though.

[SPX]

^ Yeah, but he beat Edgar. I mean, if you beat a guy and don't lose after that, you should stay ahead of that guy... but whatever, it has always been like that (guys getting shots that haven't earned it). It is not better in any other org. Hell Todd Duffee just fought for the title.

He beat Edgar but that was a while back. I thought Maynard taking Diaz to an SD was a lot less impressive than Edgar winning a clear-cut UD over a former champion in Sherk.

In any case, I think the fight the other night proved the right guy has the belt. I wouldn't call Gray's punch "lucky" but it's not like he has a history of wrecking guys on the feet. Edgar controlled most of the fight and only the 10-8 saved Gray's ass and allowed him to get away without the first loss of his career.

[MMA_scientist]

^ Yeah, but he beat Edgar. I mean, if you beat a guy and don't lose after that, you should stay ahead of that guy... but whatever, it has always been like that (guys getting shots that haven't earned it). It is not better in any other org. Hell Todd Duffee just fought for the title.

[Mr. IWS]

How did Edgar get a shot ahead of Maynard to start with?

Gray that that borefest with Nate that pretty much cost him the shot at BJ.

[MMA_scientist]

^ yeah he doesn't deserve it... but then again, Pettis doesn't deserve a title shot either. Most of the time, the guy that gets the shot is not the guy that desreves it. How did Edgar get a shot ahead of Maynard to start with? The title history is replete with guys that didn't deserve a shot. At least as often as not, some guy is fighting for the belt that hasn't earned a shot.

[zY|]

^^ I knew it. I would like to see Edgar/Pettis and Maynard/Bendo... winners fight each other for title.

Seen this mentioned a few times. Can't see how it makes sense. No way does Bendo (coming off a loss in the WEC) deserve a #1 contenders match when you got guys like Sotiropoulos (7 fight win streak) and Jim Miller (6 fight win streak) already on deck.

[poopoo333]

fuck. So apparently Leben was sick during the fight. WIsh I knew, down 4 u cus of him!

Yeah I just read that. Do you have a new spreadsheet?

[Dr_Ngo]

fuck. So apparently Leben was sick during the fight. WIsh I knew, down 4 u cus of him!