Shark fights 13

[Luke]

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Does Prangly have better striking? becuase if not I think Jardine should win.

Well Matt Hamil(whos a wrestler) just outstruck Jardine so.....

[Havis Jr]

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Does Prangly have better striking? becuase if not I think Jardine should win.

Well Matt Hamil(whos a wrestler) just outstruck Jardine so.....

Hamil has good hands.

[Ludo]

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[quote=Havis Jr]

Does Prangly have better striking? becuase if not I think Jardine should win.

Well Matt Hamil(whos a wrestler) just outstruck Jardine so.....

Hamil has good hands.[/quote:3u5elgwu]

For a deaf guy.

[Havis Jr]

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Sok should win, but he has a way of finding a way to lose. I am never betting Sok again, I don't care if he wins 20 in a row.

Larson could be a good bet. Villesenor could be bettable depending on the line.

Tarec is really good. He was a good striker and had good bjj then he went to team quest(3 years) to get the wrestling. He is 23 only one dec loss to a good opponent. Larson is on the tail end of his career.

[Mr. IWS]

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No I just checked. Besides its 11:30pm Zaks been in bed for 3 hours by now

10 o'clock news for life!

[MMA_scientist]

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Prangley is just the kind of fighter that beats Jardine. A wrestler with heavy hands and a solid chin.

Havis, I know Tarec, I expect the line to be pretty close... but I still think Larson will get on top of him and pound on him or win a decision. The guys who beat Larson to get him out of the UFC turned out to be pretty damn good (Foster and Pierce). He is 28-4 qand all of his losses have come to total badasses (Foster, Pierce, Condit, Fitch). All but 1 came to a superior wrestler.

[Havis Jr]

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Besides kennedy, Prangly has been fighting cans. He has 2 kos in 40 fights. Keith has been wrestling with rashad for how many years at greg jacksons? as far ass mma goes keith is the better wrestler.

[Luke]

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Hamil has good hands.

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[Luke]

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No I just checked. Besides its 11:30pm Zaks been in bed for 3 hours by now

10 o'clock news for life!

I was just joking man.

[SPX]

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Hamill really isn't a bad striker. If you think differently, then I think you're not giving him his due credit.

[Mr. IWS]

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I was just joking man.

LOL, I know bro.

[Luke]

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Hamill really isn't a bad striker. If you think differently, then I think you're not giving him his due credit.

You know Jardine has been fighting worse and worse strikers every fight trying to get a win and still has been losing .From Rampage to Silva to Bader to Hamil

[Ludo]

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Hamill really isn't a bad striker. If you think differently, then I think you're not giving him his due credit.

He's in the 205lb division. I wouldn't favor him to out strike anyone in the top 15. His striking may not fit the definition of "bad" but at 205 you need better than just "decent" striking to make something of yourself nowadays.

[SPX]

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He's in the 205lb division. I wouldn't favor him to out strike anyone in the top 15. His striking may not fit the definition of "bad" but at 205 you need better than just "decent" striking to make something of yourself nowadays.

Well, first off, I don't think anyone's under any illusions about Hamill being the LHW champ one day or anything. He just won't be. He's a solid mid-level guy and that's going to remain his place in the division. So if you compare his striking to Shogun's, for instance, and declare that to be the standard of "good" then not many fighters are going to have "good" striking. I look at guys like Shogun and Machida as having not just good, but great, striking, at least in terms of MMA.

Guys like Hamill have good striking.

Guys like, oh, we'll say Vinny Maghalaes have poor striking.

Hamill has 6 (T)KOs in 9 wins. He's taken guys out with punches . . . he's taken them out with kicks. . .

For him to outstrike Jardine (and I haven't seen that fight yet, so I'm just going off what everyone else is saying), I think says more about Hamill than it says about Jardine.

[Ludo]

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He's in the 205lb division. I wouldn't favor him to out strike anyone in the top 15. His striking may not fit the definition of "bad" but at 205 you need better than just "decent" striking to make something of yourself nowadays.

Well, first off, I don't think anyone's under any illusions about Hamill being the LHW champ one day or anything. He just won't be. He's a solid mid-level guy and that's going to remain his place in the division. So if you compare his striking to Shogun's, for instance, and declare that to be the standard of "good" then not many fighters are going to have "good" striking. I look at guys like Shogun and Machida as having not just good, but great, striking, at least in terms of MMA.

Guys like Hamill have good striking.

Guys like, oh, we'll say Vinny Maghalaes have poor striking.

Hamill has 6 (T)KOs in 9 wins. He's taken guys out with punches . . . he's taken them out with kicks. . .

For him to outstrike Jardine (and I haven't seen that fight yet, so I'm just going off what everyone else is saying), I think says more about Hamill than it says about Jardine.

I wasn't talking about title aspirations either, I was talking about a spot in the top ten is all. The only guy he (T)KO'd with kicks is Mark Munoz who had no business at 205 to begin with and who's striking is about as technical as a "greatest hits" collection from Bum Fights. Compare his striking even to guys like Rashad, Rampage, Rogerio, Forrest, Bones, Matyushenko, Thiago Silva. He would lose the striking battle with all of these guys.