Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

[Mr. IWS]

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I think the combination of Grove's long limbs, and Maia's sub game, its a recipe for disaster.

Chael has some solid wrestling, and maia had that nigga twisted up like a twizzler.

[MMA_scientist]

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Source?

I have read it before, but it is on wikipedia.

Maia has managed ot get every one down (except Silva) including several accomplished wrestlers in Herman, Sonnen, and Miranda... and a very good wrestler in Miller. His gameplan was to strike with Miller for whatever reason (or so he said). Kendall does have underrated wrestling, but so far, all who have tried have gotten him down, iirc.

Kendall is well rounded though and I don't think it is an easy fight by any means. I have sold Kendall short several times and always get the ass end of it. I think if Maia can get him down and keep him there for any length of time, he will eventually catch him. But It could easily go to a decision.

[edman5555]

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Yeah I was thinking with those long ass arms and legs he would catch something but then I thought of Roger Gracie.

[Ludo]

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Gracie is also a very accomplished grappler whereas Grove, while being a jack of all trades due to his length and height, is a master of none. On the ground Maia turns him into Hawaiian ground chuck.

[Thewiseman]

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4u on Maia @-350
Story .6u @ +180

[MMA_scientist]

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Yeah I was thinking with those long ass arms and legs he would catch something but then I thought of Roger Gracie.

True and Roger has never been subbed. Also, he is much broader that Grove...

But Maia doesn't go after limbs that much. He only has one submission via non-choke. Even in his bjj matches he goes after the choke. A lot of bjj guys believe that chokes are superior techniques to limb locks (because it requires more strength and also because a choke ends the fight 100% of the time, a hyperextended elbow may not even be felt until hours later).

[MMA_scientist]

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1u on Grove wins via decision @ +503 (hedge against my Maia parlays)

[MMA_scientist]

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If anyone cares:

1003 Pokrajac/Bonnar goes 3 round distance +115
8:00PM 1004 Fight won't go 3 round distance -155
Sat 12/4 1005 Pokrajac wins inside distance +346
8:00PM 1006 Not Pokrajac inside distance -517
Sat 12/4 1007 Pokrajac wins by 3 round decision +464
8:00PM 1008 Not Pokrajac by 3 round decision -790
Sat 12/4 1009 Bonnar wins inside distance +139
8:00PM 1010 Not Bonnar inside distance -179
Sat 12/4 1011 Bonnar wins by 3 round decision +215
8:00PM 1012 Not Bonnar by 3 round decision -295
Sat 12/4 1013 Pokrajac/Bonnar draw +8000
8:00PM 1014 Fight not a draw -21500

Sat 12/4 1103 Grove/Maia goes 3 round distance -140
8:00PM 1104 Fight won't go 3 round distance +100
Sat 12/4 1105 Grove wins inside distance +571
8:00PM 1106 Not Grove inside distance -1112
Sat 12/4 1107 Grove wins by 3 round decision +503
8:00PM 1108 Not Grove by 3 round decision -907
Sat 12/4 1109 Maia wins inside distance +162
8:00PM 1110 Not Maia inside distance -212
Sat 12/4 1111 Maia wins by 3 round decision +123
8:00PM 1112 Not Maia by 3 round decision -163
Sat 12/4 1113 Grove/Maia draw +6000
8:00PM 1114 Fight not a draw -15000

Sat 12/4 1203 Story/Hendricks goes 3 round distance -130
8:00PM 1204 Fight won't go 3 round distance -110
Sat 12/4 1205 Story wins inside distance +397
8:00PM 1206 Not Story inside distance -597
Sat 12/4 1207 Story wins by 3 round decision +363
8:00PM 1208 Not Story by 3 round decision -547
Sat 12/4 1209 Hendricks wins inside distance +184
8:00PM 1210 Not Hendricks inside distance -264
Sat 12/4 1211 Hendricks wins by 3 round decision +170
8:00PM 1212 Not Hendricks by 3 round decision -230
Sat 12/4 1213 Story/Hendricks draw +6000
8:00PM 1214 Fight not a draw -15000

[SPX]

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1u on Grove wins via decision @ +503 (hedge against my Maia parlays)

If he wins, I do have to believe that that's the way he does it.

[poopoo333]

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"Even some of my closest friends, when I told them who I was fighting, they were like 'oh (Demian) Maia, oooohhh'. That kinda pisses me off, and what a lot of people don’t know is that I asked for this fight."

"The secret is letting go. I’m taking this seriously and I’m confident in what I have. Two, three months is not gonna put me on the same level of jiu-jitsu as Demian Maia, so why am I gonna let that get in my head? It’s a fight and we start standing. Obviously he’s been working on his standup, he’s got great wrestling, and unbelievable jiu-jitsu, some of the best in the sport. Look, he made Anderson Silva fight cautious, and he went five rounds with him. But I’m gonna go out there and I’m gonna fight because that’s my reputation. I’m gonna put on a good show in victory or defeat."

"I’m just having fun, enjoying my time here, and I’m living my dream. I’m getting to fight one of the UFC’s top ten middleweights, and I can’t ask for anything more."

[MMA_scientist]

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I like Kendall, I like his attitude. But I just think he is in over his head here. Maia is the best fighter that Kendall has ever faced. I mean, he just won split decision against Reljic and lost to Munoz, and now he wants to fight a top 5 MW? Spunky.

[SPX]

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Maia is actually pretty damn intense... by far the most intense "jj guy" I have met.

Maia v Jacare

Who takes it?

[MMA_scientist]

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Maia v Jacare

Who takes it?

In MMA, I think Jacare would beat him in a 3 rounder.

In bjj, even though Maia has beaten him, I would still favor Jacare.

[Luke]

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[MMA_scientist]

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Here is everyone's chance on Attonito... + odds. I was hoping to get Branch @ + odds.

Probably going to be taking my ritual bet on Paixao...

here is Garza's elimination bout on TUF. He was also subbed in his last fight by the chinese WEC guy.
http://www.ultimatefighter.com/fight-vi ... el-johnson

He is mostly a grappler from what I can gather, and Paixao is a much better grappler. But Garza is long so he could win the striking. Still, I think the line is a gift.


does anyone know anything about Loveland?