Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

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  • poopoo333
    MMA *********
    • Jan 2010
    • 18302

    #106
    Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

    Ok some thoughts about Branch/Attonito:

    -Branch had a pretty offensive guard against Harris..which will be different for Attonito compared to Natal. Natal had a very lackluster guard and was using it to stall the majority of the time. Attonito has a loss by armbar from Isidro Gonzalez but I cannot find video so I don't know if it was from the guard or what. Gonzalez has 13 sub wins and 9 sub losses for the record.

    -Attonito seems to have some heavy hands, and Branch's chin still hasn't been tested from what I've seen. Attonito takes awhile to get going in the stand up with taller/longer reach opponents (such as Natal and Yager). Branch is taller, but I cannot find Branch's reach.

    -Attonito looks to be well conditioned, and Branch was slowing down against Drawl, even in a stalemate of a match up.

    -Branch wasn't able to takedown Harris, but Harris is a good wrestler..Branch was able to take down Drawl and control him the entire fight. I am not sure how Attonito will be from his back against Branch, since I've only seen him on his back against Natal (He was taken down easily and recovered from half guard into full guard to close out the first round).

    -Branch was throwing a good amount of kicks against Harris, and Attonito was getting a little susceptible to kicks from Yager and Natal.

    -Branch landed most of his TDs against Drawl from the fence, when they were on the feet his TDs were pretty slow, uncommitted, and telegraphed (Like Natal's against Attonito)

    So with some random shit out of the way, I think this fight is going to be pretty close, and Branch has the edge on paper. I think the stand up is close, and I think Branch is the better grappler. I just don't know if Branch can put it together in a fight to make it effective against Attonito.

    Thoughts?

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    • edman5555
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 6628

      #107
      Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

      Really? Damn I didn't even watch it. I assumed he did because he won a Decision and he is a wrestler.
      1 unit = 300 $

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      • edman5555
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 6628

        #108
        Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

        My thought is no bet.
        1 unit = 300 $

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        • MMA_scientist
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 9857

          #109
          Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

          Poopoo, I see it pretty much how you do. I think I was underestimating Attonito's hands a little and maybe giving Branch too mush credit for his strikes. BUt I think it is close, edge to Branch because I think he has more tools and could win it standing, by control, or by submission. Attonito could TKO or win a close decision via up and down.

          At this point, it is a no bet for me because I think Branch will win, but I do not like his line.
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          • poopoo333
            MMA *********
            • Jan 2010
            • 18302

            #110
            Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

            Originally posted by MMA_scientist
            Poopoo, I see it pretty much how you do. I think I was underestimating Attonito's hands a little and maybe giving Branch too mush credit for his strikes. BUt I think it is close, edge to Branch because I think he has more tools and could win it standing, by control, or by submission. Attonito could TKO or win a close decision via up and down.

            At this point, it is a no bet for me because I think Branch will win, but I do not like his line.
            Yep, same here. The old poopoo from 2 days ago (December 1st=poopoo's stray away from being an action junkie) would have bet Branch already to win a unit. But the new poopoo is staying away.

            But yeah, I basically see the same outcomes as you.

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            • MMA_scientist
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 9857

              #111
              Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

              ^^ all grown up. Now if I can just follow suit...
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              • poopoo333
                MMA *********
                • Jan 2010
                • 18302

                #112
                Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

                Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                ^^ all grown up. Now if I can just follow suit...
                Yeah let's just say I recently pulled a "no no". I am basically "starting over" after learning my lesson.

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                • MMA_scientist
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 9857

                  #113
                  Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

                  ^ what did you do?
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                  • poopoo333
                    MMA *********
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 18302

                    #114
                    Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

                    Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                    ^ what did you do?
                    I basically did what you did on shark fights but worse.

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                    • MMA_scientist
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 9857

                      #115
                      Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

                      Details, there is nothing to be ashamed of... we are all learning together here.
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                      • poopoo333
                        MMA *********
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 18302

                        #116
                        Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

                        Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                        Details, there is nothing to be ashamed of... we are all learning together here.
                        Basically betting too much on stuff I had no business betting.....college football. Then I made a big bet to chase, lost, chased with a bigger bet, lost, then chased the following day with the same types of bets on nfl. What sucks is that I have been doing decent on nfl with my regular/regular sized bets.

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                        • Luke
                          10 year vet
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 30060

                          #117
                          Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

                          Originally posted by Luke


                          more lines out
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                          • MMA_scientist
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 9857

                            #118
                            Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

                            I like Wilkinson and Johnson a lot there. Wilkinson especially. He showed stout TD defense and he just needs to watch out for the McKenzietine.

                            Brookins doesn't look like he can strike at all. Johnson might have the wrestling to keep it standing. Dana's usual hyperbole might have blown the line up on Brookins.
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                            • MMA_scientist
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 9857

                              #119
                              Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

                              After research on Johnson, I think Brookins will beat him. Still the line seems off to me.
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                              • Ludo
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 4931

                                #120
                                Re: Ultimate Fighter 12 Finale

                                Nam will likely take Garcia out with better cardio and better technical striking, possibly even finish him late when Garcia gasses out.
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