Boxing talk/ plays

[sbjj]

Haye has a chance, but that chance is early. Wlads chin looked like glass in a few earlier fights, but he really has not been clocked since then. IF Haye lands clean early this could get REAL interesting. If Wlad gets in his game, and the fight sees the 4th or 5th, Haye is dust.

Side note, IMO Haye does not have the best beard either, and he seems to not be that strong(mentally). I have little doubt that Wlad could hurt him also. I think Wlad @ -190 is a good bet.

[sbjj]

Haye says he's retiring after the match so pretty much this is his payday he's not really trying to win.

I actually think there is a chance he might go in there and just go bezerker. And that scares me. He has to know that is his only chance. he is not going to decision Wlad.

[bloydie]

Makes sense. Alright, I might tail you on this one.

It seems like Klitschko is going to be pretty big compared to Haye. I was browsing forums and stuff and people are saying Klitschko has no chin...I am not sure if this is valid or if this is just a bunch of idiots on a forum being haters. Haye has fought a taller fighter before against Nikolai Valuev and won a majority decision which I am guessing it was a close fight. I can't find the video so I am torrenting it to see how it looked. Klitschko just seems to have this boring style that just works for him.

Also everything I just said is probably dumb because I basically have no idea about any technical things in boxing and stuff like that. I usually just tail people when I make boxing bets.

Haye will need to jump on him and put him away in the first 3-4 rounds to win, if the fight lasts longer then that and klit has got then range with his jab and right Haye is getting taken down china town. The both have the power to take each other out, Klit is the better technician and Haye the more natural fighter.

Its not rocket science haye has to get in and land fast and hard to win. Klit needs to line-up haye on the end of his punch to take him out. Valuev is not Klit and haye will fight completly different to the way he did not, he aint out boxing klit. Also haye has a habbit of throwing punches on the back of the head, you should watch the Ruiz fight when he had him hurt. Klit doesnt react too well to those punches if haye lands one of those illegal blows and the ref does not see it, Haye is going to be all over him. I belive Kilit will win and will probably lay down three bets, Klit win, Klit ko and if i can find one with nice odds haye in the first 4 rounds or something.

I've watched haye throughout his whole career the guy has belief in his ability and is not going in for a paycheck (ko'ing mormeck in paris and beating valuev away from home). He pretty much anihallated everyone he fought at cruiser until he met carl thompson. He pretty much beat the sh1t out of thompson and blew his load. After that fight you see he went the distance to test himself out. Then after that he pretty went on his way to beating peeps up again. He knows his limitations as a fighter so i dont imagine him trying to win on points.

[Vandelay]

So Klitschko at -200 and haye in rd 1-6 would be a good bet then?

[bloydie]

Hey,

Im not too sure what that equates to, but you can get haye for 5 (rds 1 - 6) and Klit to win by stoppage at around 2.3. Like i said i think Klits going to win so im going to look to put the money down on him, and just throw a little down on Haye to soften the blow if Haye jumps on him.

[Luke]

probably be on Wlad unless I see something in the next week that chances my mind , probably also parlay Strum with something for this weekend .

Anyone have thought on Lucas Martin Matthysse vs Devon Alexander? Alexander is -310 while Matthysse is +230 or better . I think the line is set way too high on Devon and may take Matthysse but still need to watch some more video

Also Cotto-Margarito II line is out Cotto -245 /Marg +175 .........that line is way off this fight should be close to a pk imo . I'll be on Margarito here probably

Ward -Froch line also out Ward -260/ Froch +180 ......I'll be on Ward and Ward by decision

[SPX]

I thought Wlad was kind of like Mayweather . . . unstoppable.

[sbjj]

probably be on Wlad unless I see something in the next week that chances my mind , probably also parlay Strum with something for this weekend .

Anyone have thought on Lucas Martin Matthysse vs Devon Alexander? Alexander is -310 while Matthysse is +230 or better . I think the line is set way too high on Devon and may take Matthysse but still need to watch some more video

Also Cotto-Margarito II line is out Cotto -245 /Marg +175 .........that line is way off this fight should be close to a pk imo . I'll be on Margarito here probably

Ward -Froch line also out Ward -260/ Froch +180 ......I'll be on Ward and Ward by decision

I actually think Alexander will beat Matthysse fairly easy, but no way i bet him at 3 to 1. If that line sticks on Cotto-Marg. I will bet a nice chunk on Marg.

I would skip Ward straight up and bet him by decision. Or maybe parlay him with another fighter. I am a bit higher on Frch than most, but i still see him losing to Ward.

Luke, bet Strum with Cloud this weekend. Cloud is going to destroy mack on the Alexander undercard. Shit, there is my fighter to parlay with half my bets this weekend...Cloud baby.

[Luke]

Luke, bet Strum with Cloud this weekend. Cloud is going to destroy mack on the Alexander undercard. Shit, there is my fighter to parlay with half my bets this weekend...Cloud baby.

I would have put Cloud in a parlay but he's -1200. I bet a Sturm-Alexander parlay. Devon's lie has dropped from -310 to -210 and when I finally got to looking at it Lucas doesnt stand much of a chance.

May or may not add more things later

[poopoo333]

warr alexander

[Luke]

warr alexander

hope so

[SPX]

[poopoo333]

Luke I am no boxing expert but I kind of think Alexander lost that fight. Am I right or wrong?

[Luke]

Luke I am no boxing expert but I kind of think Alexander lost that fight. Am I right or wrong?

It was really close , I wouldnt have argued a 95-94 score either way .I figured Alexander would get a hometown decision since it was close .

Honestly I scored it 95-94 Matthysse, glad we won though

[Vandelay]

yea i put 75 on matthysse and he clearly won rds 4 7 8 and 10 with rd 4 being a 10 8. So even with a sweep of all the close rds, the worst shoulda been a draw. Even hometown judges cant argue any of the aforementioned rds being scored for alexander. but it makes up for the money i won on the sturm decision