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  • SPX
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 23875

    #76
    Re: Bellator 34

    Originally posted by Svino
    Can't you do something like a double weigh-in? One the day before and one at the fight? Seems like there's no way someone would try to stay cut in weight for 24 hrs leading right up to the fight.
    Sure. That works.
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    • zY|
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 8385

      #77
      Re: Bellator 34

      Originally posted by SPX
      My point, obviously, is that if we get rid of weight cutting altogether then everyone will be happy and healthy, and the contests will be fair.

      Surely you can understand that.
      Yes but that's simply not going to happen. Guys are always going to cut weight because nobody weighs the same. Say that a fighter has to cut 6-7 pounds to make 170. Is it somehow fairer for him to instead be forced to fight at MW against a natural 185 pound fighter?

      I certainly don't want the sport to turn into boxing and have 17 different weight classes.

      Originally posted by Svino
      Can't you do something like a double weigh-in? One the day before and one at the fight? Seems like there's no way someone would try to stay cut in weight for 24 hrs leading right up to the fight.
      What like have a scale outside the cage? So what do you do if they weigh too much at this 2nd weighin? Not have the fight? It's just not practical.

      Do you guys not find it odd that nobody who is actually inside the sport considers this even remotely an issue?
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      • SPX
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 23875

        #78
        Re: Bellator 34

        Originally posted by zY|
        Yes but that's simply not going to happen. Guys are always going to cut weight because nobody weighs the same. Say that a fighter has to cut 6-7 pounds to make 170. Is it somehow fairer for him to instead be forced to fight at MW against a natural 185 pound fighter?
        Well think about it. Fighter's make weight now . . . why couldn't they make weight in the situation that you mention?

        If a fighter naturally weighs 177 then he has a choice to make. Put on some muscle or lose a little bit of it. If he wants to fight at 170, he can restrict his diet or up his cardio or whatever he has to do to be a natural 170 pound fighter. I don't see why this is such a big deal.


        Originally posted by zY|
        What like have a scale outside the cage? So what do you do if they weigh too much at this 2nd weighin? Not have the fight? It's just not practical.

        Do you guys not find it odd that nobody who is actually inside the sport considers this even remotely an issue?
        I think that after a couple of fighters fail to make weight on the second weigh in and losing both the money and respect that goes along with it, then they'll get with the program. And no one said you have to weight 170 on the dot to fight at WW. You could weight 167. Or 168. Just to be on the safe side.

        Besides, really no one's concerned about cutting a few pounds. If they're at 172 and need to cut two pounds to make the limit, who cares? The problem is guys cutting 20 fucking pounds.
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        • Ludo
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 4931

          #79
          Re: Bellator 34

          but that right there even goes against what you proposed. What if they do fail to make weight at the second weigh in? Either you scrap a fight just minutes/hours before it's supposed to happen(which will in turn produce angry customers who won't purchase tickets/pay per views again at least for a time), or you fine fighters and they still have to fight someone who's heavier than them anyway. Just leave it as it is and let fighters do what fighters do already.
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          • Luke
            10 year vet
            • Oct 2006
            • 30060

            #80
            Re: Bellator 34

            Of course I forget this was on last night.I was watching football/NBA/baseball

            Cant believe Fujji lost though. I'l l watch it sometime
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            • SPX
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 23875

              #81
              Re: Bellator 34

              Originally posted by LudoCain
              but that right there even goes against what you proposed. What if they do fail to make weight at the second weigh in? Either you scrap a fight just minutes/hours before it's supposed to happen(which will in turn produce angry customers who won't purchase tickets/pay per views again at least for a time), or you fine fighters and they still have to fight someone who's heavier than them anyway. Just leave it as it is and let fighters do what fighters do already.
              No, I think they should get a 1 lb allowance because that can be the difference between eating or not eating that day.

              We could discuss exactly how it should be worked out, but after fighters get fined/suspended/etc. enough times they'll get with the program. There would obviously be a transition period, but ultimately it would work out for the better.
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              • zY|
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 8385

                #82
                Re: Bellator 34

                I'm done discussing this issue, as its not an issue.
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                • SPX
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 23875

                  #83
                  Re: Bellator 34

                  Originally posted by zY|
                  I'm done discussing this issue, as its not an issue.
                  Well considering I wasn't even responding to you, you could've just not said anything.
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                  • zY|
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 8385

                    #84
                    Re: Bellator 34

                    You responded to me up top, jerkweed. Clearly that makes you the ass, ass.
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                    • SPX
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 23875

                      #85
                      Re: Bellator 34

                      Originally posted by zY|
                      You responded to me up top, jerkweed. Clearly that makes you the ass, ass.
                      Yeah, last night. . .
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                      • poopoo333
                        MMA *********
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 18302

                        #86
                        Re: Bellator 34

                        SPX and ZY sittin in a tree...

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                        • SPX
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 23875

                          #87
                          Re: Bellator 34

                          Originally posted by poopoo333
                          SPX and ZY sittin in a tree...
                          It would never work. zY just doesn't treat me the way I like to be treated.
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                          • zY|
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 8385

                            #88
                            Re: Bellator 34

                            I think fighters should also be separated by height categories. It's not fair to fight a guy 2" taller than you that has a reach advantage.
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                            • SPX
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 23875

                              #89
                              Re: Bellator 34

                              Originally posted by zY|
                              I think fighters should also be separated by height categories. It's not fair to fight a guy 2" taller than you that has a reach advantage.
                              I think you should be separated for retardation.
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                              • Luke
                                10 year vet
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 30060

                                #90
                                Re: Bellator 34

                                Originally posted by SPX
                                Originally posted by zY|
                                I think fighters should also be separated by height categories. It's not fair to fight a guy 2" taller than you that has a reach advantage.
                                I think you should be separated for retardation.





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