Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

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Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

I can handle Rogan, but Goldberg just acts like such a shill it kills me. Every fight and every fighter are the "greatest X in UFC history" or every fight the fighters "have tremendous amounts of respect for each other" or are "two of the classiest men in UFC history". And I'm not even getting in to the inane shit he says.

[SPX]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

Yes. Hence the name "Bleacher Report"

It's glorified Sherdog.

I treat it as a comedy site, like Cracked or The Onion.

Ah, okay. Thanks.

Is there even any sort of approval process to become a writer?

[MMA_scientist]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

I can handle Rogan, but Goldberg just acts like such a shill it kills me. Every fight and every fighter are the "greatest X in UFC history" or every fight the fighters "have tremendous amounts of respect for each other" or are "two of the classiest men in UFC history". And I'm not even getting in to the inane shit he says.

Very true, but I get a laugh out of the ridiculous shit he says. Rogan is supposed to know what he is talking about... I like him and think he is funny outside of the UFC. BUt I can't listen to his grappling commentating, talk about a shill. Also, his bias is apparent in almost every fight.

[SPX]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

I could care less about female MMA, I think it makes SF worse by wasting a slot where we could be watching a real fight.

So females don't participate in "real fights?" It wasn't awesome when Kaufman slam KOd Roxy? Cyborg doesn't destroy people with vicious striking?

I love women's MMA. You said you think cross-promotion is what sets SF apart . . . I think it's women's MMA.

I don't care about walkouts, so I honestly don't know who has better ones, or if that can be quantified.

I think walk-outs are a big part of the show. Hearing my fighter's song and seeing them come out to the cage with their camp pumps me up.

In Strikeforce there's barely even a walk out. It's more like the fighters just kind of magically appear out of nowhere.

More events would be nice, but SF does not charge for events.

Regardless of the reason, it is what it is. Strikeforce very rarely puts on a card with any significance. They do like 4 shows a year or something + some Challengers cards. And then when they do put on a card, you're getting four fights. Period. Four fights. Forget about seeing any prelims. That's just crazy talk.

Showtime/CBS > Spike/VS

What does this matter as a fan, though? Does it increase your viewing experience for it to be on one channel or another?

Besides, CBS = 20 minutes of commercials for every fight.

SF belts mean nothing, which annoys me as well. I don't even know who their champions are.

Melendez is a legit champ, as is Cyborg, and now Coenen. Diaz doesn't really have anyone to fight. The depth just isn't there to really even have a belt. Middleweight? I guess Jacare's legit. There are at least a few good fighters there. LHW? Whatever. HW? Until Overeem actually starts being a full-time champ and they get the Overeem/Fedor/Werdum situation settled, that belt is 100% meaningless.

[SPX]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

Very true, but I get a laugh out of the ridiculous shit he says. Rogan is supposed to know what he is talking about... I like him and think he is funny outside of the UFC. BUt I can't listen to his grappling commentating, talk about a shill. Also, his bias is apparent in almost every fight.

Does this somehow tie back in to Eddie Bravo and 10th Planet?

[Luke]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

Ah, okay. Thanks.

Is there even any sort of approval process to become a writer?

Oh great SPX is going to sign up over there and flood them with Pulver,Jardine and Serra stories

[MMA_scientist]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

Does this somehow tie back in to Eddie Bravo and 10th Planet?

Don't start none, won't be none.

[SPX]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

Oh great SPX is going to sign up over there and flood them with Pulver,Jardine and Serra stories

What would be wrong with that?

[SPX]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

Don't start none, won't be none.

LOL

I'm serious. Someone on Sherdog had a post going earlier basically bitching about Rogan and his pro-10th Planet rhetoric at 123.

[Luke]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

Oh great SPX is going to sign up over there and flood them with Pulver,Jardine and Serra stories

What would be wrong with that?

I was kidding . Go start writing there.

[SPX]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

I was kidding . Go start writing there.

I'm joking.

I don't write for free.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

So females don't participate in "real fights?" It wasn't awesome when Kaufman slam KOd Roxy? Cyborg doesn't destroy people with vicious striking?

I love women's MMA. You said you think cross-promotion is what sets SF apart . . . I think it's women's MMA.

I understand why some people like it... but I just don't think the product is very good. It is a lot like WNBA to me... sure the fundamentals are good, sure they are busting their asses, but I just don't care and it is slow motion to me.

I don't begrudge them the opportunity, but even guys that say they like it, don't respect it. All anyone cares about is who is hotter. Imagine if a bunch of chicks were sitting around talking about whether Fedor or Brock was sexier... I think we would know that they really didn't care about the fight.

Also, I don't think the level is very high because the pool of fighters is sooo shallow. There MIGHT be 2 viable fighters in each weight class.

I think walk-outs are a big part of the show. Hearing my fighter's song and seeing them come out to the cage with their camp pumps me up.

In Strikeforce there's barely even a walk out. It's more like the fighters just kind of magically appear out of nowhere.

I just don't care about that.

What does this matter as a fan, though? Does it increase your viewing experience for it to be on one channel or another?

Besides, CBS = 20 minutes of commercials for every fight.

It doesn't matter as a fan, but it increases SF's viability.

Melendez is a legit champ, as is Cyborg, and now Coenen. Diaz doesn't really have anyone to fight. The depth just isn't there to really even have a belt. Middleweight? I guess Jacare's legit. There are at least a few good fighters there. LHW? Whatever. HW? Until Overeem actually starts being a full-time champ and they get the Overeem/Fedor/Werdum situation settled, that belt is 100% meaningless.

Don't want to retread this... SF MWs are legit, (I think they would beat UFC's MWs in a round robin personally). We have talked about the HWs at length. LHW, they are not as good, but King Mo, Mousasi, Hendo, Feijao would do pretty well in the UFC IMO. Mo will give problems to any man at 205. Mousasi is tough too.
They suck at WW.
Melendez, JZ, Thomson are right there at LW. Melendez has a legit claim to be #1. With cross promotion, they add Aoki and the Dream stable and (maybe?) Alvarez. The talent is not far behind, if at all.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

Don't start none, won't be none.

LOL

I'm serious. Someone on Sherdog had a post going earlier basically bitching about Rogan and his pro-10th Planet rhetoric at 123.

Yes, that is it mostly. Not just the pro 10pjj rhetoric, but also trying to say someone is doing a technique incorrectly because they are not doing it the retarded 10p way.

For example, when (I think it was Sotiropolous, one of his own guys- but it could have been Machida) was going for the arm bar, he did not grab the leg. EB calls this the spider web position. There is nothing inherently wrong about controlling the leg, but it is but one way among many ways to take an arm bar from mount. In fact, the spider web position is definitely the minority viewpoint on the best way to take a mount armbar. But Joe would not shut the fuck up about it... "He needs to control the leg!!! He would have had that if he controlled the leg! The mistake he made was not controlling the leg..." No, that is not a mistake, it is a conscious decision to do a technique in a different (more common and effective in most people's view) way. Did Rickson control the leg? (no)

He did the same thing when some one (I think Sot again) was playing half guard. "he needs to get the lock down, then get the underhook... blah blah" There are other half guard games besides EB's half (which is very simple and effective, the best part of EB's stuff IMO- though he no more invented it than I did)...

But it is that with every damn position. "We call that the meat hook." Actually, only you and your retarded cronies call it that, the rest of the world calls it a high guard.

Basically, just pointing error where there is none (because it is not the 10p way) and pointing success where there is none.

end rant.

[SPX]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

Scientist, this thread is for you:

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/rogan- ... n-1439397/

[Luke]

Re: Strikeforce gets UFC to Tap (Bleacher Report article)

I was kidding . Go start writing there.

I'm joking.

I don't write for free.

Good I didnt want to read Jardine Pulver manlove crap anyway