UFC 128 Newark, NJ March 19 Rua vs Jones

[Luke]

I think Jones is going to win. He is bigger, stronger, and a good wrestler. I basically view this fight the same I did as the Rashad/Shogun fight, except Rashad probably has the better sub defense/striking defense. If this makes it to the later rounds and Shogun is still fresh, I think he will probably get the finish. Jones slows down in his fights that aren't his quick destructions: against Gusmao and Bonnar (IIRC Gusmao chopped the shit out of Jones' leg), and I think he started to slow down a little bit in the 2nd round against Bader.

Rashad was a dog ,Jones is a -215 favorite . I just think the line is waaayyyyyyyyy off

[edman5555]

Well he might have slowed down in the gusmao and Bonnar fights because he wasn't in very good shape. He was still kinda new then. Was he even at Jacksons? His first pro fight was in April of 2008. His first UFC fight was in August of 2008 against Gusmao. Then in January of 2009 he fought Bonnar. Almost gauranteed he is in better shape now than when he fought them. 100 percent. He is training like a pro with the pros now. I'm sure he was still learning how to train then. He also should have an easy time wrestling Shogun so I would expect Shogun to tire if anyone does. Provided it goes the distance that is.

[poopoo333]

Rashad was a dog ,Jones is a -215 favorite . I just think the line is waaayyyyyyyyy off

I agree that the line is way off for sure. I am disappointed that the Rashad fight is off, I was confident in Rashad and I was going to make a decent sized play on him @+155

[edman5555]

If I can get a good line on Jon Jones inside the distance and/or TKO/KO I will probably take it.

[poopoo333]

Ok I just watched the trailer. That guy has some talent, he should get paid for these. His trailers always make me way more excited for fights

[edman5555]

I am thinking Shogun is a pretty good bjj black belt. Nothing super special but pretty good. It is probably complimented by the fact that he is such a good fighter though.

[zY|]

I don't think he's the greatest positionally, but he is superslick and dynamic off of his back.

[MMA_scientist]

I will definitely be on Shogun. I mean, you are basically betting that Jones is the greatest LHW to ever live, no man is 2x as good as Shogun.

[Ludo]

I am thinking Shogun is a pretty good bjj black belt. Nothing super special but pretty good. It is probably complimented by the fact that he is such a good fighter though.

Him being a great fighter definitely helps the overall concept of who Shogun is. But make no mistake his ground game is 100% legit. He has some great sweeps and submissions off his back and he's the kind of fighter who won't hesitate to leave himself open while he goes for an arm or a leg because he is tough as nails himself.

[edman5555]

I will definitely be on Shogun. I mean, you are basically betting that Jones is the greatest LHW to ever live, no man is 2x as good as Shogun.

Well no that's a little off. I'm not betting he's the best to ever live. Either way If I bet one of them I will be betting them inside the distance because I really do not see this fight going the distance.

[poopoo333]

Karlos Vemola Out of UFC 128



bring in Kyle Kingsbury!

[poopoo333]

nvm, my guess is Vera replaces Vemola

[SPX]

Vera's gotten badly injured in both of his last two fights. It seems to me that he's going to fight scared instinctively for the rest of whatever career he has.

[poopoo333]

If he doesn't fill Vemola's spot, I am guessing they put him against Bonnar or Tito.

[Mr. IWS]

I am guessing they put him against Bonnar or Tito.

I wouldnt mind either of those matchups.