Strikeforce's 2011 Heavyweight Grand-Prix

[edman5555]

His overall MMA skill is overrated. Your right, but his wrestling/grappling are decent enough. When you combine decent wrestling and grappling with great striking and tremendous size you get a good MMA fighter.

[edman5555]

Overeem has a legit shot at beating any Heavyweight he fights. Plenty of guys have that same legit shot at beating him.

[MMA_scientist]

For sure, he is good. He has won more fights via submission than via strikes fwiw. But people who are just now becoming aware of him think he is an unstoppable monster. He isn't, he has just been fighting shitty fighters for several years in a row without a real challenge.

I think he is definitely top 10 though. I don't think he is bad by any means... but people talk about him like Fedor would be an easy fight for him, which is just sort of ridiculous.

[edman5555]

Not easy but I favor him. I'll break down why. I think the fight will be decided in the standup. Fedor is good with takedowns but Overeem doesn't seem to be bad at defending them though I admit I haven't watched a lot of his fights. I think his size alone will be enough to throw Fedor off of him. Fedor is a pudgy 230. Overeem is a enormously jacked roided up 260 pounds. On top of that, even if Fedor can get it to the ground Reem is competent enough to avoid the sub and stand. Standing, Overeem should have the advantage. Superior reach, strength and striking skill.

[zY|]

I think we'll have a much better idea of how Overeem and Fedor match up after watching their respective first round fights. Fedor fights so infrequently and Overeem hasn't fought a top fighter in 5000 years.

[edman5555]

So far I think the good bets are Barnett over Rogers and Sergei over Arlovski.

[edman5555]

2.5u Sergei to win 2.5u

[Luke]

Valentijn Overeem (28-25), a 15-year MMA veteran and older brother to Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair, will meet eight-time K-1 World Grand Prix (kickboxing) finalist Ray Sefo (2-0) in one of three reserve bouts, all constructed to provide alternates should any of the tournament field lose its footing along the way. Chad Griggs (9-1), who surprised many by taking out former WWE pro wrestler Bobby Lashley in two rounds last August, has also been seeded into the reserve brackets against an opponent to be revealed shortly, said Coker.
ESPN.com reported last Tuesday that Strikeforce Challengers headliners Lavar Johnson (15-3) and Shane Del Rosario (7-1) will get the final reserve bout slot.
The five heavyweight bouts will air live Feb. 12 on Showtime, Coker told the Times.

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[poopoo333]

I hope griggs is set up with cormier.

[Ludo]

My only concern with Sergei over Arlovski is that flat footed style of his. If Arlvoski comes in confident he could dance around and pick Sergei off all fight long.

[Ludo]

I buy the falling down on purpose thing, I actually thought it after it happened. I don't think he got rocked that hard did he? I'd have to watch it agin, I saw it as it happened which was very quick.

From the looks of it he does get hit pretty good with the first punch Fedor throws in the exchange, and maybe the second one, but the one that was supposed to hit clean totally misses before Werdum falls. Either he was caught off balance or he was playing possum. It's hard to tell for sure though.

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/__HQ_Fedor_vs_Werdum_Strikeforce?vid=10011564&tid=100

[poopoo333]

Strikeforce Signs Gian Villante, Battles Chad Griggs in Third Grand Prix Reserve Bout




Gian Villante, a two-time champion in Ring of Combat and Levittown native, has signed a multifight contract with Strikeforce, Newsday has learned.

Villante will make his Strikeforce debut in the heavyweight division against Chad Griggs on the Feb. 12 card at the Izod Center in East Rutherford, N.J.

[MMA_scientist]

Those are some weak alternates. They better be praying they don't have to get in there...

[Luke]

Those are some weak alternates. They better be praying they don't have to get in there...

The UFC couldnt even put on a 8 man HW tourney , they dont have 8 legit HW's


1.Cain
2.Carwin
3.Lesnar
4.JDS
5.Mir
6.NOG
7.Nelson

then who? Schaub or Rothwell lol

forget alternates if the UFC had one

No organization in the world has enough HW's to put on a 8 man tourney and still have 6 top fighters for alternates

[SPX]

^^^ I know he's been looking like shit, but you could still throw Big Nog's name in the 8th place.