UFC 129 toronto GSP-Shields

[edman5555]

GSP is not past his prime lol

GSP was playing it safe. Playing it safe and winning is way better than taking risks and losing. Especially when he is the champ, he has a lot to lose.

[MMA_scientist]

SPX is the winner of the straight picks test with 10 of 13, besting several that had 9.

Also, there were 4 unanimous IWS picks and they all won.

Georges St. Pierre vs. Jake Shields
Jose Aldo vs. Mark Hominick
Randy Couture vs. Lyoto Machida
Benson Henderson vs. Mark Bocek
Vladimir Matyushenko vs. Jason Brilz
Rory MacDonald vs. Nate Diaz
Kyle Watson vs. John Makdessi
Sean Pierson vs. Jake Ellenberger
Pablo Garza vs. Yves Jabouin
Ivan Menjivar vs. Charlie Valencia
Claude Patrick vs. Daniel Roberts
Jason MacDonald vs. Ryan Jensen

[poopoo333]

Yeah I don't care how safe he played it. I'd rather have it that way if I bet on him lol

[Vandelay]

There was no need to play it safe though. Shields posed no threat standing and his takedowns were stuffed with ease. It's only a matter of time before GSP starts losing fans and his ppv numbers start diminishing. Most people don't like to watch a boring winner. Look at Tim Sylvia, Lyoto Machida, Frankie Edgar, Jake Shields, the spurs, josh clottey (boxer). All safe competitors who usually dont take risks and get hated for it.

[SPX]

It must be great to be GSP

Fight like shit, have one eye








Easily beat a guy on a 15 fight win streak.

No shit. It really does make you wonder how or when someone's going to figure out how to beat him.

Either someone else is going to have to pull a Serra or we're going to have to see some guy appear on the scene out of nowhere who just starts fucking everybody up like he's GSP 2.0.

[MMA_scientist]

As an aside, Aldo is supposed to fight Mendes next... Aldo has a very impressive bjj record, but it was clear that his game is on top. In the bjj matches I have seen, he gets on top and hold it. I am probably going to look hard at Mendes there. I think he has a great chance. Aldo looked like shit off his back. Maybe he was tired, but whatever, he wasn't controlling posture at all and he was just laying flat on his back, horrible.

[poopoo333]

Aldo was also gassed imo. But I will be betting Mendes also

[poopoo333]

There was no need to play it safe though. Shields posed no threat standing and his takedowns were stuffed with ease. It's only a matter of time before GSP starts losing fans and his ppv numbers start diminishing. Most people don't like to watch a boring winner. Look at Tim Sylvia, Lyoto Machida, Frankie Edgar, Jake Shields, the spurs, josh clottey (boxer). All safe competitors who usually dont take risks and get hated for it.

I think the casual fan will always tune in for GSP. At BWW, even with GSP's recent "boring fights" or whatever, the place goes nuts for GSP at every event and they go crazy each time he throws a punch, gets a TD, etc.

[SPX]

I really thought Garza would win, and I am pissed I didn't pull the trigger on that one.

Yeah, I was a little frustrated with myself for just dropping a little piddly ass .25u on that one. It really looked like Jabouin was on his way to a win, though. He was fucking Garza up on the feet. BTW, did anyone else expect Garza to have some kind of thick accent?

As for the fights... I really enjoyed every fight except the GSP fight. JMAC's triangle set up and Rory Macdonald's suplex were the highlights of the event for me, aside from the obvious MAchida kick, which was incredible. I was happy to see Randy go down, but I couldn't really celebrate because I had a bunch of people over and they were all cheering for Couture. I was really hoping they would have to stretcher him out of there so I wouldn't have to see all the hero worship stuff yet again... but I will take it.

I'm still not over that kick. The only thing that would've made it better is if we hadn't seen Anderson do something similar just a few months ago. When I saw it I immediately thought, Scientist is going to be happy about this. I was happy myself, though I don't hate Couture or anything.

So is Machida "back" and does he continue his interrupted winning streak or does he still have a rocky road ahead of him? What kind of chances do you give him against Jones? Furthermore, is Seagal actually teaching these guys something useful?

I was nervous as hell after Round 1 of the Aldo fight. Aldo looked like Aldo for the first 2 minutes, and then he just fizzled. I really thought Hominick was going to beat him after that round.

I really felt like Hominick had the best shot of the Aldo-Machida-GSP triumvirate, which is why I stayed away from betting that one. I think Hominick's boxing is really solid and was giving Aldo some problems. Also, I think that if Hominick had worked in takedowns more in every round rather than just at the very end then, based on what we saw, maybe he could've actually won.

[SPX]

SPX is the winner of the straight picks test with 10 of 13, besting several that had 9.

Thanks for the props. This was just such a great event for me on so many levels.

Speaking of contests, it's really time to do another official one.

Also, there were 4 unanimous IWS picks and they all won.

We should do this for every event for a couple of months and see how it works out. Maybe there's something to our unanimous picks. If they could could consistently pay out, say, 8 of 10 times it might be worthwhile to actually try to work it into our betting strategies.

[Vandelay]

I really felt like Hominick had the best shot of the Aldo-Machida-GSP triumvirate, which is why I stayed away from betting that one. I think Hominick's boxing is really solid and was giving Aldo some problems. Also, I think that if Hominick had worked in takedowns more in every round rather than just at the very end then, based on what we saw, maybe he could've actually won.

Hominick only got that td cause aldo went for the choke...Mendes gassed horribly in his last fight. He's still a little too green to beat Aldo in my mind. He does have power in his hands and a good double leg though.

[zY|]

I don't know whether Seagal is actually teaching these guys anything useful, or if it's just the case of a mental block being overcome. IE: One guy does something people don't think is possible, people realize it is, and other capable fighters try more vigorously to employ said technique. It's pretty common in sports and fighting.

It's hard to overlook the presence of Seagal though, as preposterous and hilarious as it seems.



^^Martial Arts master

[zY|]

I don't know what happened to Aldo. He was fast and destroyed Hominick in the 1st round, then he came out flat and awful in the 2nd and it was nothing of Hominick's doing.

Also, fuck Chad Mendes.

Aldo must fight Hatsu Hioki.

[SPX]

. . . he wasn't controlling posture at all and he was just laying flat on his back, horrible.

Laying flat on his back and getting tagged repeatedly.

[MMA_scientist]

Furthermore, is Seagal actually teaching these guys something useful?

No. They like him because they are crazy brazilians and they want to slurp his balls so they give him credit where it clearly is not due.