Ufc 130

[SPX]

Carwin/Bigfoot can battle for best HW that has been caught for steroid use.

LOL

[Mr. IWS]

We already saw what happened when he tried to grapple with a real world class guy (Pe De Pano)

Pssssssshhhhhhh

E'rbody knows that was fat Mir after the accident.

Mir > Pano

[poopoo333]

So if you HAD to pick a winner:

Mir or Nelson?

[MMA_scientist]

So if you HAD to pick a winner:

Mir or Nelson?

Mir.

[SPX]

It's so hard.

Earlier I said Nelson. Now I'm leaning Mir.

So I guess Mir. Which means Nelson will win.

So Nelson.

[MMA_scientist]

We have talked about this before, Mir's fights are very hard to cap. You never know what is going to happen. He either comes out and slays or folds up immediately and there is no rhyme or reason to it. The Cro Cop fight is teh only time I recall seeing him in a protracted boring fight. I will give him that, he usually brings the excitement. I really don't think Roy's striking is that good and Mir is more versatile on the ground. Mir is bigger and stronger as well. All of that said, I still don't know what will happen. But I lean Mir.

[Svino]

I lean Mir, also. I've been underrating his striking for too long.

[Johnny Unreliable]

We have talked about this before, Mir's fights are very hard to cap. You never know what is going to happen. He either comes out and slays or folds up immediately and there is no rhyme or reason to it. The Cro Cop fight is teh only time I recall seeing him in a protracted boring fight. I will give him that, he usually brings the excitement. I really don't think Roy's striking is that good and Mir is more versatile on the ground. Mir is bigger and stronger as well. All of that said, I still don't know what will happen. But I lean Mir.

I'm leaning Mir as well but I always worry about him coming in shape. He's just very inconsistent but I think talent wise he's better than Big Country. On paper he should win. My books at -115 that's not that far off even odds. I take him at plus anything for a unit or two.

[edman5555]

We have talked about this before, Mir's fights are very hard to cap. You never know what is going to happen. He either comes out and slays or folds up immediately and there is no rhyme or reason to it. The Cro Cop fight is teh only time I recall seeing him in a protracted boring fight. I will give him that, he usually brings the excitement. I really don't think Roy's striking is that good and Mir is more versatile on the ground. Mir is bigger and stronger as well. All of that said, I still don't know what will happen. But I lean Mir.

Yeah Mir should be able to handle this. I wonder who the better wrestler is. Mir's strength and cardio advantage should help that a bit. He was supposedly working on his wrestling a lot due to the Lesnar loss.

[Luke]

Yeah Mir should be able to handle this. I wonder who the better wrestler is. Mir's strength and cardio advantage should help that a bit. He was supposedly working on his wrestling a lot due to the Lesnar loss.

This was 2003 so.......

[Ludo]

Nelson has power enough to counteract Mir's versatility striking and Nelsons wrestling is better. I see no reason Nelson can't advance position on Mir if he gets on top. He shouldn't knock Nelson out. I mean if Dos Santos couldn't put Nelson out in those first two rounds I doubt Mir is going to find the button.

[edman5555]

Frankly I think Frank wins a decision.

[trotterz]

Frankly I think Frank wins a decision.

same here,
roy is just going to be too slow for mir.
Mir is going to outbox him to a unanimous decision. Roy's takedowns are not good enough to get mir down (even though Mir's TDD is not really good).
Roy has more power in his punches but he will have difficulty to connect on mir who's going to be more fast. Pretty similar to the dos santos match up. Mir's boxing is nowhere need the level of dos santos but better than Nelson

[Ludo]

Yet Nelson landed several flush shots on Dos Santos during that fight. Mir is going to start backing off when he gets cracked with a good shot, he's not going to keep pressing the action like Dos Santos did. I have no doubt that Roy can land on Mir more than he did Dos Santos because while Mir is faster than Roy he's not THAT much faster. Nelson laid Shaub out hard during the TUF Finale and Shaub is one of the fastest guys in the division right now.

[poopoo333]

Yet Nelson landed several flush shots on Dos Santos during that fight.

When Carwin does this JDS is going down.






(waits for SPX to come in and freak out)