UFC 131 JDS vs Carwin

[poopoo333]

Remember this? http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/1/21...lesnar-is-done

"I think Brock Lesnar is done," Nelson said. "I think Brock doing TUF is one way to basically take a situation and make it win-win for him. I think Lesnar doing the show is a way to introduce Junior Dos Santos to the American fan base in the way the show does. TUF introduces "stars in the making" to the casual UFC fan and while JDS is the number one contender he still needs some help with the American fan base. So the conspiracy basically comes down to the fact that Shane Carwin has no one to fight in June. I think Brock Lesnar will walk off the TUF set and then Carwin will take his spot or Frank Mir will come in to "save the day" and fight JDS for title contention. The reason I believe Frank would be the guy is because Mir is coming off a win and I was already supposed to fight Shane so fans were already hyped to see it. Or Carwin could move in to face JDS and I could still face Frank but it doesn't really matter to me as to who fights who because all that really matters is the fans want to see me fight somebody. A lot of things could happen over the next six weeks but it seems a bit off that Carwin doesn't have an opponent right now and all of the top heavyweights are spoken for."

[Mr. IWS]

See Luke, he was scared of me.

[Mr. IWS]

Remember this? http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/1/21...lesnar-is-done

"I think Brock Lesnar is done," Nelson said. "I think Brock doing TUF is one way to basically take a situation and make it win-win for him. I think Lesnar doing the show is a way to introduce Junior Dos Santos to the American fan base in the way the show does. TUF introduces "stars in the making" to the casual UFC fan and while JDS is the number one contender he still needs some help with the American fan base. So the conspiracy basically comes down to the fact that Shane Carwin has no one to fight in June. I think Brock Lesnar will walk off the TUF set and then Carwin will take his spot or Frank Mir will come in to "save the day" and fight JDS for title contention. The reason I believe Frank would be the guy is because Mir is coming off a win and I was already supposed to fight Shane so fans were already hyped to see it. Or Carwin could move in to face JDS and I could still face Frank but it doesn't really matter to me as to who fights who because all that really matters is the fans want to see me fight somebody. A lot of things could happen over the next six weeks but it seems a bit off that Carwin doesn't have an opponent right now and all of the top heavyweights are spoken for."

Dam, good call.

[SPX]

MotherFUCKER!

And now we'll probably never know who wins that fight!

Fuck. Line predictions? I'm thinking this is possibly a much easier fight for JDS. Carwin lacks the technical proficiency to go toe-to-toe with JDS and even if Carwin gets JDS down in round 1 his cardio will be toast by round 2, allowing JDS to unload on his face.

Unless something insane happens with the line, I will DEFINITELY be on JDS here.

[poopoo333]

Carwin lacks the technical proficiency to go toe-to-toe with JDS and even if Carwin gets JDS down in round 1 his cardio will be toast by round 2, allowing JDS to unload on his face.

It isn't necessarily true Carwin will be completely gassed in round 2 if he takes JDS in round 1 imo. Carwin dropped Brock, and punched himself completely out and probably had an adrenaline dump with those circumstances. I am not saying Carwin has good cardio or anything, but you can't compare Carwin's round 1 against Brock to a regular round of fighting.

[poopoo333]

I think JDS will probably win this fight. I don't know. The fight to not go the distance is a lock imo

[Ludo]

Fight not going the distance is about the surest thing ever. Personally I don't know who to pick here. Carwin has never been the guy who jumps to use his wrestling offensively but he may have to here. JDS has the speed and technical striking advantage with more than enough power to knock Carwin out. If Gonzaga can rock him, Junior can finish him if given enough time.

[edman5555]

Carwin is supposedly weighing in at about 250 pounds now.

[poopoo333]

Fight not going the distance is about the surest thing ever. Personally I don't know who to pick here. Carwin has never been the guy who jumps to use his wrestling offensively but he may have to here. JDS has the speed and technical striking advantage with more than enough power to knock Carwin out. If Gonzaga can rock him, Junior can finish him if given enough time.

Then again, Carwin has some crazy power. He basically KOd Gonzaga with a jab lol. Also, remember JDS doesn't have the best conditioning either, watch JDS vs Big Country again.

[poopoo333]

Just wondering...what line would you bet JDS up to SPX?

[SPX]

It isn't necessarily true Carwin will be completely gassed in round 2 if he takes JDS in round 1 imo. Carwin dropped Brock, and punched himself completely out and probably had an adrenaline dump with those circumstances. I am not saying Carwin has good cardio or anything, but you can't compare Carwin's round 1 against Brock to a regular round of fighting.

That's true, but even under just regular circumstances, I think that by the middle of round 2 or the beginning of round 3 he'll be toast. That's if JDS hasn't finished him already.

[SPX]

Just wondering...what line would you bet JDS up to SPX?

I hope to get him at -160 or better. If he's higher than that I'd have to think about it because there's always the possibility of the Carwin Death Touch slipping through his defenses.

[Thewisemann]

I think this is a tough fight to call.

[Thewisemann]

If Carwin opens up at +200 on 5dimes, im all over it.

[Thewisemann]

For about .2u, lol. These little bets are killing me, i want my bankroll back!!