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  • poopoo333
    MMA *********
    • Jan 2010
    • 18302

    #736
    Originally posted by SPX
    You know, I've been thinking all day about the fact that Tito won that fight. I'm still not over it.
    It's crazy because his training camp consisted of 3 coaches and 2 sparring partners. Tito must have wanted to save some money.

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    • MMA_scientist
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 9857

      #737
      Nice work guys, another IWS sweep from all I can tell.

      Guillard is good now. I think he would have a good chance against Edgar or Maynard, but would probably succumb to the takedown and get submitted.

      I hate myself for not making my standard bet on Dos Anjos. I need to stop getting sucked into the hype on some of these guys.

      I actually was surprised at the Wiman decision. I thought he won, but I did not really pay that close of attention to the fight. I was sort of watching it and talking, but the 4 people in the room with me all thought Wiman was going to get the decision. Like I said though, I didn't pay close attention.

      Wand. Damn that was hard to watch, but that is what happens when you just trade shots after you have been knocked out cold several times.

      Tito/Bader. I was rooting for Tito, but I admit that I thought he had no path to victory. He has never dropped a guy with a shot in recent history and he usually does not even go for submissions. That said, I would not have bet him "not Tito by submission." As Wiseman mentioned, he has show flashes off his back, and I have heard that his bjj is actually really good. Still, pretty shocking and I admit I thought he had no chance.

      Cruz/Faber was pretty much as expected.


      Post event war: y'all are pussies. Everyone is stacking up chips like crazy, and you guys are trying to implode the money train.
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      • SPX
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 23875

        #738
        Originally posted by poopoo333

        There are a number of things that are noteworthy here. . .

        1. Tito won.

        2. He just said, Fuck it! I'm just going to run up and clock this son of a bitch right in his damn face!

        3. As I mentioned before, Bader said that he "woke up and was caught in a guillotine." That's got to be a hell of an experience.

        4. When Tito lets Bader go, it's obvious Bader is fucking out of it.

        5. The commissioner in the red coat who walks into the cage seems perplexed by Tito. I bet he's never seen the grave digger before and is like, What the fuck is this shit?!

        6. Tito won.
        Last edited by SPX; 07-03-2011, 09:19 PM.
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        • SPX
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 23875

          #739
          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
          Guillard is good now. I think he would have a good chance against Edgar or Maynard, but would probably succumb to the takedown and get submitted.
          Neither of those guys are known for the submission game, so if Guillard could just use his wrestling enough to keep it on the fight a good percentage of the time then he could win for sure. Top 5 striker at lightweight? I think he probably is.

          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
          I hate myself for not making my standard bet on Dos Anjos. I need to stop getting sucked into the hype on some of these guys.
          I only put .25u on him and kicked myself for not going heavier. G-Sot's hypetrain is officially derailed.

          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
          I actually was surprised at the Wiman decision. I thought he won, but I did not really pay that close of attention to the fight. I was sort of watching it and talking, but the 4 people in the room with me all thought Wiman was going to get the decision. Like I said though, I didn't pay close attention.
          Watch it again and let us know what you think.

          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
          Wand. Damn that was hard to watch, but that is what happens when you just trade shots after you have been knocked out cold several times.
          It was gay. I was happy for Leben, but if he was going to knock Wand out we could've at least gotten a good barn burner out of it before the KO. I knew that might happen, though. I should've bet it, but I took Wand via decision, not understanding just how much his chin has deteriorated.

          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
          Tito/Bader. I was rooting for Tito, but I admit that I thought he had no path to victory. He has never dropped a guy with a shot in recent history and he usually does not even go for submissions. That said, I would not have bet him "not Tito by submission." As Wiseman mentioned, he has show flashes off his back, and I have heard that his bjj is actually really good. Still, pretty shocking and I admit I thought he had no chance.
          Tito beating Bader is pretty much what I've been thinking about more than anything else today. I've never even been a huge Tito fan, but I wanted him to win and it was an awesome feel good moment.

          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
          Cruz/Faber was pretty much as expected.
          I thought it exceeded all expectations. I knew it had the potential to be an awesome fight, but Ludo was on point when he said that it as a fight that "dreams are made of." Incredible fucking fight. One of the best I've seen in my entire life.


          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
          Post event war: y'all are pussies.
          I think that we all did well for the most part so, and the fights were so awesome, that there just wasn't a lot of anger going around.

          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
          Everyone is stacking up chips like crazy, and you guys are trying to implode the money train.
          I don't know what this means.
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          • poopoo333
            MMA *********
            • Jan 2010
            • 18302

            #740
            I rewatched Siver/Wiman. Siver deserved the decision.

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            • SPX
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 23875

              #741
              Good man, PP. You are a bastion of sober-minded objectivity.
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              • poopoo333
                MMA *********
                • Jan 2010
                • 18302

                #742
                I was just like Scientist. I was busy talking during that fight. But most of the time when I looked up, Wiman was doing the whole hanging onto the leg thing. I am actually surprised the judges didn't give the fight to Wiman based on how they have been scoring fights, that is why I was surprised last night. But after watching the fight Wiman didn't really get shit done in rounds 1 and 3 and Siver was more effective.

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                • poopoo333
                  MMA *********
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 18302

                  #743
                  Any chance Sherk comes out of the nursing home and fights Guillard or Siver? I'd like to see those fights, moreso Guillard vs Sherk though.

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                  • SPX
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 23875

                    #744
                    Originally posted by poopoo333
                    I was just like Scientist. I was busy talking during that fight. But most of the time when I looked up, Wiman was doing the whole hanging onto the leg thing. I am actually surprised the judges didn't give the fight to Wiman based on how they have been scoring fights, that is why I was surprised last night. But after watching the fight Wiman didn't really get shit done in rounds 1 and 3 and Siver was more effective.
                    That's what I thought, too. I'm not sure if you ever listen to any of the Sherdog podcasts, but even Jordan Breen--who called Wiman the best underdog bet on the card and who said himself that he had put some money on him--said on Beatdown After the Bell that he scored the fight for Siver and thought he deserved the decision.

                    I was worried, though. Wiman definitely controlled the fight in the sense that he had Siver pushed up against the cage most of the time and he also had that huge second round which I thought might get in the judges' minds and influence them, whether consciously or subconsciously.
                    Last edited by SPX; 07-03-2011, 09:31 PM.
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                    • SPX
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 23875

                      #745
                      Originally posted by poopoo333
                      Any chance Sherk comes out of the nursing home and fights Guillard or Siver? I'd like to see those fights, moreso Guillard vs Sherk though.
                      I'm wondering if Sherk is pretty much done.

                      Wikipedia says that "Sherk is planning a summer return." Well, it's summer and he doesn't even have a fight lined up.
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                      • Luke
                        10 year vet
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 30060

                        #746
                        Originally posted by poopoo333
                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_108


                        Start there, and on the right there is the event chronology and all you gotta do is keep clicking
                        damn you.............I wanted X to do aleast a little work.


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                        • Luke
                          10 year vet
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 30060

                          #747
                          About Tito Ortiz

                          Diego Sanchez, UFC welterweight: "I bet $100 on him. I'm not a big time gambler but I saw him when I walked in. We talked. He had that focus and I knew if he was going to lose that fight it was either he was on his way out the door or he was out the door. So, I knew he was going to win it."
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                          • SPX
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 23875

                            #748
                            War Diego, and his $100 betting Toxic-Avenger-After-the-Kampmann-Fight looking ass.
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                            • Vandelay
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1934

                              #749
                              The reason why wiman lost is because all he did was hug sivers leg. Simpson was dirty boxing and kneeing tavares and stifling all of his offense. Fodor has a great defense for being clinched against the cage in that he has wicked knee's and usually has a much higher output even tho he is being pushed against the fence.

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                              • Ludo
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 4931

                                #750
                                I think Cruz/Faber goes down in the top ten all time greatest fights in MMA up to now.
                                2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
                                Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
                                Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
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                                2012: +20.311u

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