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  • MMA_scientist
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 9857

    #46
    The fair tax/national sales tax/consumption tax... whatever you want to call it, is basically the selling point for the Libertarian Party (they also want to legalize most victimless crimes- including pot, so that should make you happy). They basically want to get the Government out of our business, back to the way it should be.

    Too bad it is all just white man fantasy. Governments don't get smaller, once something has been added, it stays forever. A fair tax will never ever happen.
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    • edman5555
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 6628

      #47
      Bob Barr? He doesn't seem very liberty oriented. According to what I read he is against Pot and gay marriage. Maybe I should delve a little deeper into his positions but he sounds like a conservative.
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      • MMA_scientist
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 9857

        #48
        Originally posted by edman5555
        Bob Barr? He doesn't seem very liberty oriented. According to what I read he is against Pot and gay marriage. Maybe I should delve a little deeper into his positions but he sounds like a conservative.
        You didn't read closely enough. He started out as a conservative and then jumped ship a few years ago. The Wiki article says he is trying to repeal his own amendments (from when he was a republican).

        "In Congress, Barr's strong stance against medical marijuana put him at odds with marijuana policy reformers such as the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP). Despite this historic antagonism, in March 2007, Barr reversed his stance on medical marijuana[89] and began lobbying on behalf of MPP.[90][91]"

        I am a social liberal (personally I am very conservative, but I just believe in letting people make thier own decisions), but not all Libertarians are... just like not all democrats are socialist and not all republicans are facists (just most of them).
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        • Mr. IWS
          215 Hustler
          • Sep 2006
          • 98673

          #49
          Luke, whats up with your brothers shit?
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          • Luke
            10 year vet
            • Oct 2006
            • 30060

            #50
            Originally posted by IWS Zak
            Luke, whats up with your brothers shit?

            No idea .He's gets backed by peopel now so if his funds are gone he wont really care because it wasnt his money. I havent talked to him about it yet, I'll try calling him tonight


            Edit: Maybe he would be pissed I'll have to call him
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            • Luke
              10 year vet
              • Oct 2006
              • 30060

              #51
              Talked to my brother today . He said the poker guys he plays with got wind of something going down and they withdrawed all there money and only left there backers money in their accounts. He said he can log in but cant play or cash out.

              He also said the only reason they got shutdown was because of the rat and sportbetting has nothing to worry about ............for now


              MMAscientist did you try for an withdraw?
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              • MMA_scientist
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 9857

                #52
                Not yet... I actually forgot about it. I will probably try tomorrow.
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                • SPX
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 23875

                  #53
                  I thought you were gonna let it ride?
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                  • MMA_scientist
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 9857

                    #54
                    ^ no, I am going to stay in the game, but I am going to have to start keeping my bankroll in dufflebag or something. I am just going to keep enough in there to cover my bets. It takes 5 minutes to go to WU and deposit, and it is usually in my account in an hour. There is no reason to keep it all online.
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                    • Thewisemann
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 1989

                      #55
                      Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                      ^ no, I am going to stay in the game, but I am going to have to start keeping my bankroll in dufflebag or something. I am just going to keep enough in there to cover my bets. It takes 5 minutes to go to WU and deposit, and it is usually in my account in an hour. There is no reason to keep it all online.
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                      • edman5555
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 6628

                        #56
                        Yeah I emptied my 5dimes + Bodog so far. Checks are in the mail, so I am told. I wonder how long it will take, I bet a lot of people are doing the same thing right now. I still have to empty my bookmaker account though. From here on out I will be depos +Withdrawing on the fly. No Keeping thousands in there to get sacked by the massive piece of shit government. What a bunch of useless toilet turds. God I hate them. Someone with a lot of comp knowhow has to start some sort of petition to make sportsbetting legal in America. Fuck, I would go door to door for a day or two to help out (in addition to signing the petition). We're going to need a nationwide movement, preferably sponsored by IWS.
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                        • sbjj
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 1418

                          #57
                          Good to see the Libertarian spirit alive and well in here.

                          Just remember, the freedom to sports gamble is a freedom that is very important to all of us in here(obviously). But some find it immoral and bad for society. their morals should not control our lives. But others may want the freedom to do drugs, pay for sex, carry a firearm, or just keep their income(not pay income taxes).

                          the real key to being a true Libertarian, is to put all your moral judgements aside, and let people truely be free. contrary to popular belief, when people are left alone, they usually do pretty well.

                          Side note, the #1 thing holding Black americans down is the insane war on drugs, followed by the failed public schools and welfare. Why are there not more black Libertarians.

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                          • poopoo333
                            MMA *********
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 18302

                            #58
                            Guys I need to do an outline for a persuasive speech on Thursday and I think I want to do it on legalizing online gambling.

                            But I have no idea of any good arguments or anything like that. Help me out guyssssss

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                            • SPX
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 23875

                              #59
                              If I were doing such a paper, I would definitely focus on the fact that in America we're supposed to be free and have the right to choose, even when those choices can have negative consequences for us. I would also look into statistics, if they're available, that tell us whether or not there's any widespread risk. One guy in a thousand who lost his house isn't widespread. If there aren't any alarming facts or figures, then you can essentially say that the detrimental effects on society are miniscule, especially compared to other legal things like alcohol or tobacco.
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                              • Luke
                                10 year vet
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 30060

                                #60
                                I would you can gamble in Nevada and New Jersey and this is the land that the everyone is suppose to be treated equal why is it that only people in those two states are able to gamble? Shouldnt everyone be treated equally and be allowed to gamble if they choose so?
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