UFN 25: Battle on the Bayou 9/17

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah Mckenzie's standup is very good but who knows what Rochas is like. Cerrone didn't let Rocha touch him. Grappler vs Grappler and Rocha is the better one. But like you guys I am hesitant to bet him because he is new and we haven't seen much of him. That one guy he lost to beside Cerrone is pretty good though. Brett Bergmark is his name. Anyways, I will probably bet Rocha if i can get him at +0dds. Which might happen..

I am horrible at guessing opening lines, but I would be surprised to see McKenzie as a favorite at any point.

Shields- Ellenberger. My original though was to bet shields huge here because I figure he can dominate Ellenberger on the ground. That is what I thought about Souza-Rockhold though, I turned out to be wrong there though. I read scores from Junkie and Sherdog. They gave it to Souza(all except for one guy at sherdog). Anyone watch the fight? I guess Rockhold is pretty damn good.

Rockhold won the last 3 rounds IMO. He is good, but really what happened is that Jacare gassed out badly in Round 2. I don't think he has the tools be UFC champ or anything, he is not that great at any 1 thing. He was doing a good job of anti-grappling Jacare, just fighting off the TDs and standing up when he did get taken down. He was winning the striking, but he got rocked himself several times. He got wobbled right off the bat. Like I said, good, well rounded guy, but Jacare will have a better career IMO. Jacare is a handful for any man for 3 rounds. He kind of sucks at 5 rounds though.

My basic reasoning for shields is that he is a better wrestler/grappler than Ellenberger. Ellenbergers main offense would be his powerful strikes. Shields took Hendos best and still kept moving so he should be able to take whatever ellenberger can dish. Shields has also outwrestled better guys at 185. I think his showing against Kampmann was affected by his cardio. I also think his cardio should be much better now. His dad died, I don't know what effect that will have. I also have the fear he will come out and try to strike. He did that in the GSP fight, I remember the reported asking him why and he basically said " I don't know". However beating Kampmann via wrestling while being completely gassed is no easy feat. Kampmann is good, he did beat a lot of guys at 185. He just couldn't handle Natey nate. At 170 he has only lost to Daley (whos weight is now listed as 176 on wiki) and shields. He basically beat Diego, Thiago, Volkmann and condit. That is pretty damn good. Diego couldn't even take kampann down. I will probably wait for a better line on Shields. Maybe reduced Juice.

I think the line is well set now. I would like Ellenberger at a little better dog odds. It is really hard to say how they will match up grappling. Striking, Ellenberger obviously has more offense. One big advantage to Shields is that he is fine if he gets taken down and even held there. If Shields gets Ellenberger down for any length of time, he is probably toast.

[edman5555]

Yeah I guess whoever posted that jacare is a gasser was right. Thank god I got cold feet. I was going to bet half my accounts. I was thinking about doing that with shields too. I still may place a 10u bet on him.

[Vandelay]

Jorge Lopez is Wand's star pupil. Came up with a wrestling background and seems to have a brawling style.

[Ludo]

Yeah I guess whoever posted that jacare is a gasser was right. Thank god I got cold feet. I was going to bet half my accounts. I was thinking about doing that with shields too. I still may place a 10u bet on him.

Sounds really risky considering Shields' father dying last week. Plus I have a bet on Ellenberger, but best of luck regardless of what you decide on.

[poopoo333]

Jorge Lopez is Wand's star pupil. Came up with a wrestling background and seems to have a brawling style.

Any vids on him?

[Vandelay]

half heartedly looked and found

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Xkm46t3j0

[poopoo333]

Daniel Roberts Injured, Mike Stumpf Steps In to Face T.J. Waldburger at UFN 25

[poopoo333]

Still no lines for this card...books must think it's as shitty as we do

[poopoo333]

Still no lines for this card...books must think it's as shitty as we do

nvm

[poopoo333]

Vandelay, you lied...Brookins isn't +300

[Luke]

Dongi Yang is what I call my weiner

[sideloaded]

Vandelay, you lied...Brookins isn't +300

I hope you know vandelay has been trolling people. If he did predict +300 not trolling and missed by that much he shouldn't be betting mma. I say that because if the books are off that much and his line is close to correct vandelay has a huge edge and should be posting from yachts with models sucking his dick. Or there is another reason why he was so off. Either way he shouldn't be betting mma anymore.

[poopoo333]

Dongi Yang is what I call my weiner

I call mine "Not So Big and Not So Fat Cock"

[Vandelay]

I thought it would be -400, +300. Ill be betting koch heavily.

[Vandelay]

lines already creeping up