UFC 139

[Ludo]

I'm in no way trying to discredit Le as a striker. But his entire MMA career has been filled with hand picked opponents for him to knock down. Also, Wanderlei has knocked out technically superior strikers before, I'm not saying he will definitely do it here but acting like he has no chance is a stretch. He put it on Bisping pretty hard just last year and dropped him twice(who dropped Bisping with punches twice in one fight before?). I see no reason why he can't do it to Le, who isn't any faster than Bisping is, at 40 years old, and has spent most of his time making movies when he wasn't going 1-1 with Scott Smith in the last two years.

[SPX]

I wouldn't be that surprised to see Wand finish Cung. I just think it's not probable.

Likewise, I wouldn't be that surprised to see Wand win on points. I think that if he does win, this is the most likely scenario.

[poopoo333]

My print screening skills are awesome

[sbjj]

LOL @ the gang jumping on my Smith MIGHT just KO Silva comment as me saying Smith WOULD beat Silva. Love when that kind of silly shit happens.

Bottom line is that Silva is pretty much shot.. As a fighter TODAY he is not that good at all. Le has looked pretty good except for the last minute of his first fight with Smith where he gassed. I think all you guys who think Silva is a level or two above Le should bet the hell out of him.

If this fight stays standing, Le has a great shot. He is a better stand up fighter than Bisping.

[sbjj]

I'm in no way trying to discredit Le as a striker. But his entire MMA career has been filled with hand picked opponents for him to knock down. Also, Wanderlei has knocked out technically superior strikers before, I'm not saying he will definitely do it here but acting like he has no chance is a stretch. He put it on Bisping pretty hard just last year and dropped him twice(who dropped Bisping with punches twice in one fight before?). I see no reason why he can't do it to Le, who isn't any faster than Bisping is, at 40 years old, and has spent most of his time making movies when he wasn't going 1-1 with Scott Smith in the last two years.

Who is saying he has no chance?

[poopoo333]

I don't know what to think of the fight, I just wanna see Wandy KO my uncle

[sbjj]

I don't know what to think of the fight, I just wanna see Wandy KO my uncle

I'm with ya. It is a close fight. Wand will have the power. Le will have the technical edge. Both have chin questions. What if Wand goes for takedowns?

I just give Le a slight edge as I can see him just simply picking Wand apart like Franklin.

[poopoo333]

^^pretty much my thoughts exactly

[zY|]

Dana looking extra Uncle Festerish in that Shogun/Hendo face-off.

[poopoo333]

Cung Le/Wandy -115/-115 opener

[SPX]

Predictions on what happens with that line? I hope money comes in on Silva. . .

[mike]

what's everyone's thought on the Weidman-Lawlor fight ? I like lawlor at +300. Lawlor's hands are faster and more powerful than Weidman. Wrestling, I think Lawlor can keep it standing til he's gassed out. Only thing that worries me is that he doesnt have the gas tank to go 3 hard rounds with Weidman.
I like Story at -150 but probably gonna use the live betting and see how the first round goes, see both fighter's game plans.
Bonnar over Kingsbury
Tibau will probably overpower dos anjos to the ground and win a dec.

[poopoo333]

I think Weidman runs away with it, Lawlor's best chance is to win the striking early. I think Weidman's grappling is on another level and it seems to be carrying over in MMA well.

Story/Kampmann is close, not too sure who I like in that one. Story ends up on his back a lot for a wrestler but his game plans seem to be the ones that Kampmann loses to.

Why do you like Bonnar over Kingsbury? I think Kingsbury will be able to take Bonnar down and control him and keep it close/maybe even do better on the feet. I would like to see Bonnar win though.

I like Tibau too.

[SPX]

I think Bonnar will probably come in as a dog and be worth a play. Kingsbury has a shitty gas tank. And really, I just don't think he's that great. I could see Bonnar taking over in rds 2 and 3 and winning a decision.

I agree Tibau should take it. Guida started winning once he started going for takedowns and I imagine the bigger, stronger Tibau can do the same.

[mike]

how do you see Weidman winning this fight by? I really doubt he can submit or KO Lawlor. But i didnt see Lawlor's last loss where he got choked out. How did that happen? was he hurt standing or he just got choked out by a better grappler ? I thought Lawlor won the fight vs Aaron Simpson. Simpson is somewhat similar to Weidman.

the way i see it, Kampman is very skilled but doesnt do very well against the in-ur-face pressure type of fighter. That's Rick Story. Kapmmann, with all that talent, doesnt seem to take a punch very well. Story can just implement the same game plan he did vs Alves except he can seriously hurt Kampmann standing. Story can take a good punch too.

I think Kingsbury's advantage is that he's a huge, powerful LHW and that's IT. He's not technically sound with his striking or wrestling and he slows down after 1 round. Bonnar has better stand up, improve tdd (just from my vague memory) and he's very tough to finish. If he can survive round one, i think he can take round 2 and 3 when Kingsbury slows down. I need to rewatch Kingsbury's last fight 1 more time, but i remember i wasnt very impressed with him when i saw that fight live.