Strikeforce Semi Finals of HW GP

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  • poopoo333
    MMA *********
    • Jan 2010
    • 18302

    #211
    I will guess Cormier opens around -180

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    • zY|
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 8385

      #212
      Originally posted by Vandelay
      He defininitely was. Went stiff as a board. he just didnt look comfortable in that fight. Wasnt comfortable at range, definitely didnt like getting inside. Its fine. MMA isnt for everyone.

      You still gotta look at Cormier in perspective. His takedowns arent the greatest even tho hes an olympian. So can he outstrike Barnett? Plus barnett will probably be looking to get the fight down. I'll probably be taking barnett at dog odds. or mayb the bout to go the distance
      I dunno. That trip off the caught kick had me all



      It's definitely a tougher fight, though.
      Triple-six killers in this motherfucker runnin shit

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      • SPX
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 23875

        #213

        I thought about that last night. Would be crazy if it hits. He still has to get through Barnett, though.


        Originally posted by poopoo333
        I will guess Cormier opens around -180

        If Cormier is -180 I will be on Barnett for sho.


        Originally posted by Luke
        I completely lost my ass on the card until the last fight,was down about 18 units and threw damn near every cent left in my 5dimes account on Cormier.....never been so glad to end up down 6 units for a event in my life. Was litterally ready to give up MMA betting.
        Well congrats on losing 6 units.

        Glad you don't have to give up on MMA now.
        I heart cock

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        • Svino
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 3873

          #214
          Barnett's last 6 fights have all been against strikers with shit grappling. Last time he fought a decent wrestler was in 2008 against Monson. It will be interesting to see how he handles Cormier. BTW, Kharitnov actually turtled Barnett up with some heavy shots and may have come closer to winning that than we realize. I wouldn't be surprised if Cormier can stand with Barnett and win.

          I think people are being too hard on Gracie. Yes, he had absolutely nothing for King Mo, but I hope we see him fight some more. I want to see him lose to someone other than one of the best wrestlers in the division before he calls it quits.

          People were calling out Blanco on the head kicks before they happened. From Jordan Breen's chat:
          Comment From Canadian from Canada: How to you think Blanco's striking arsenal will be effected by the unified rules saying it is illegal to counter an armbar from the guard with a face stomp?

          Jordan Breen: It's sad with Blaco that we make these jokes, yet it's entirely possibly he'll flake out and do something like this. I can only hope he keeps his, uh, enthusiasm, in check.


          Mike Kyle's a little better than I thought. I was feeling good about my de Lima bet.

          Romero will be back stronger. Cavalcante was too much too soon and a bad matchup.

          Guys who I think need to go to the garbage heap after last night: Evangelista Santos, Dan Hornbuckle.

          The real lesson from last night: Keep a close eye on BookMaker's live betting. They've got a new system where you can live-bet on specific fight endings as well as the fight winner and it is totally overloading the capabilities of the trained monkey they have tasked to adjust the lines. The lines aren't getting updated properly and I think BookMaker may have to scrap their new system. But until then...

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          • MMA_scientist
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 9857

            #215
            Originally posted by Vandelay
            Its fine. MMA isnt for everyone.
            Let's not get carried away. He lost 1 fight to former champion who is the the worst possible style matchup for him.
            2012: +19.33
            2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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            • Vandelay
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1934

              #216
              Originally posted by MMA_scientist
              Let's not get carried away. He lost 1 fight to former champion who is the the worst possible style matchup for him.
              and got knocked out brutally. U said it urself he doesnt need the money, and he probably wont ever be a champ so...

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              • MMA_scientist
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 9857

                #217
                It is Roger's 5th fight, and his 5th straight wrestler. He won't hang it up. Maia didn't hang it up when he got blasted by Nate. Mo's 5th fight, he was fighting guys names Ryo Kawamura... no one was calling for Mo to hang it up when he stepped up and got stopped by Feijao. I think the expectations for Roger are unfair. He is an accomplished grappler, but he is still new to mma.
                2012: +19.33
                2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                • poopoo333
                  MMA *********
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 18302

                  #218
                  Originally posted by Svino
                  The real lesson from last night: Keep a close eye on BookMaker's live betting. They've got a new system where you can live-bet on specific fight endings as well as the fight winner and it is totally overloading the capabilities of the trained monkey they have tasked to adjust the lines. The lines aren't getting updated properly and I think BookMaker may have to scrap their new system. But until then...
                  War Bookmaker's new live betting system.

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                  • MMA_scientist
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 9857

                    #219
                    Originally posted by Vandelay
                    and got knocked out brutally. U said it urself he doesnt need the money, and he probably wont ever be a champ so...
                    There are only 2 or 3 guys in the 205 division that WILL be champ... so the rest of them should retire? GTFO, Roger can still be a top 10 fighter, and he probably will be. He is only 29, I don't rule out that he can be champion anyway. Guys get knocked out all the time, it is mma. Machida got brutally knocked out by Shogun, should he quit too? Rashad got brutally knocked out by Machida, Rampage got brutally knocked out by Shogun... maybe everyone but Jones should retire (actually, they probably should).
                    2012: +19.33
                    2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                    • Svino
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 3873

                      #220
                      Next fight: Gracie vs. Romero.

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                      • MMA_scientist
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 9857

                        #221
                        I mean, it is not like he just got brutalized and shown he can't compete. He got clipped with a well placed shot in a fight he was winning even though it was out of his comfort zone. I don't think it means he should retire. I mean, GSP got knocked out by the same shot.
                        2012: +19.33
                        2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                        • MMA_scientist
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 9857

                          #222
                          Originally posted by Svino
                          Next fight: Gracie vs. Romero.
                          That would make sense, I hope they don't make that fight though. Roger needs to get at least one fight against someone without world class takedown defense.
                          2012: +19.33
                          2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                          • Svino
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 3873

                            #223
                            Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                            There are only 2 or 3 guys in the 205 division that WILL be champ... so the rest of them should retire? GTFO, Roger can still be a top 10 fighter, and he probably will be. He is only 29, I don't rule out that he can be champion anyway. Guys get knocked out all the time, it is mma. Machida got brutally knocked out by Shogun, should he quit too? Rashad got brutally knocked out by Machida, Rampage got brutally knocked out by Shogun... maybe everyone but Jones should retire (actually, they probably should).
                            Well, it will all come down to a matter of personal attitude. (How much he wants to be a fucking fighter, as Dana would say.) With all those other guys, they probably need the money and don't have some other sport where they are the best in the world that they can use to satisfy their competitive urges.

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                            • MMA_scientist
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 9857

                              #224
                              Roger won't retire. Maybe he should, but he won't.
                              2012: +19.33
                              2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                              • Vandelay
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 1934

                                #225
                                How many of those guys make as much money as gracie does outside of fighting? gracie doesnt even need sponsors on his shorts. Ill be surprised if he fights in the ufc once zuffa absorbs strikeforce.

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