Strikeforce Semi Finals of HW GP

[Vandelay]

Mo will end up being around -175 in my opinion

[Luke]

You two better be right or you're both banned

[poopoo333]

How much are you planning to bet?

[Luke]

How much are you planning to bet?

between 5 and 10 units

[poopoo333]

between 5 and 10 units

Dayum, good luck.

[MMA_scientist]

I do not see how King Mo wins this fight ,going to be on Gracie for a very large play .


You guys think the line will go up or down from the current line of +115?

You were laughing at how bad Roger's hands were last time. He is slow and has no power, like Diaz without the volume or technique. Do you think Roger beats Mo standing? Randleman may have taken a round off Roger striking...

Don't get me wrong, I think Roger is going to win, but I think he has to make something happen, he is not Feijao out there on his feet. I just belive that Roger will have it worked out, but as of now, I am not sure how he is going to get Mo down.

[MMA_scientist]

I am probably going to be on Roger for a unit or two. May drop .5 now and the rest closer to fight, I will be pissed if Roger into - territory.

[Ludo]

Roger may be slow but Mo isn't exactly ultra quick with his strikes either. He tends to lumber in and throw bombs or work from a side posture. I think if Roger sticks a good jab in his face Mo will be pretty much wondering how he's going to get inside. He may actually clinch Roger in the hopes he can control him against the fence for some wall and stall tactics until he figures something better out. Normally I'm hesitant to pick the grappler over the wrestler with better hands but Roger's length and being top 3 in the world are certainly things to think about here. I will be on Gracie here.

[Ludo]

Quick question though. I'm not overly familiar with Rockhold, does he have the submission defense/wrestling to stay out of trouble here/stay on his feet?

[Luke]

You were laughing at how bad Roger's hands were last time. He is slow and has no power, like Diaz without the volume or technique. Do you think Roger beats Mo standing? Randleman may have taken a round off Roger striking...

Don't get me wrong, I think Roger is going to win, but I think he has to make something happen, he is not Feijao out there on his feet. I just belive that Roger will have it worked out, but as of now, I am not sure how he is going to get Mo down.

Never laughed at his hands, said they were worse than I expected. The way I heard from people was his striking looked great against Randleman and when I finally got to see the fight he looked okay but not what people had told me.
I could tell a difference in his striking just from the Randleman fight to the Prangley fight and I'd assume it will be even better this time.

King Mo's striking is less than impressive to me.He throws wide,wild shots and a stiff jab in his face will really screw him up imo. Roger holds a height and reach adv in this fight also.

[MMA_scientist]

Rockhold has pretty solid wrestling and he is tall, which helps. I don't think he can stop Jacare's takedowns though, I don't think there are many guys that can. But He may be able to survive until Jacare gasses. Is it 5 rounds?

[Ludo]

I have been hesitant to pull the trigger on Jacare because I don't know shit about Rockhold really. The problem with watching video on him is he hasn't faced anyone with quite the credentials on the ground that Souza has, or quite as much raw tenacity and strength. I keep remembering that kimura Souza tapped Marcelo with from bottom guard and he straight muscled Marcelo's arm out for it. I was more worried that that Rockhold might have the kind of submission defense on par with Smokin' Joe or that he would have hands technical enough to give Jacare problems standing. After seeing that he's been out for a year and a half I might just go ahead and play against him in a parlay.

[Ludo]

Is Feijao really on the undercard here?

[trotterz]

Mo will end up being around -175 in my opinion

I think that the line will go the other way. Casual betters seem to have a really small memory and they seem to only forget the few last fights from a fighter. Also the fact that Roger is still undefeated has the effect that some of those guys thinks that he will never be defeated and blabla.
You have an undefeated fighter, agains't someone who just got knocked out in his previous fight. Pretty sure the line is going to go the other way.

[Vandelay]

So by your logic, feijao will be the underdog to romero because hes facing an undefeated guy and he just got knocked out by hendo?