UFC 136

[sbjj]

I don't really get why everyone is so caught up with Aldo's last fight, while there is little mention of Kenny's last fight (sans the Zombie Kenny remark).

Kenny was CLEARLY LOSING against Nunes before Nunes gassed and something tells me Aldo uses Nunes as a punching bag back at Nova Uniao. Don't get me wrong, I think Nunes is a solid fighter, but he's still the fighter who barely squeaked by Brown and Assuncao and Kenny lucked out that Nunes couldn't keep pace with him.

Besides, okay, Aldo had one lackluster showing . . . 1 in 9 fights. How did he look against Faber? How did he look against Brown? How did he look against Gamburyan? etc.

100% agree. And lets not forget. Aldo was smashing Hom. in the early going of that fight. I am pretty sure that ONE round was an abnomily. Out of Guillard, Sonnen, and Aldo...Aldo seems to be the most dependable of the bunch.

[Luke]

I don't really get why everyone is so caught up with Aldo's last fight, while there is little mention of Kenny's last fight (sans the Zombie Kenny remark).

Kenny was CLEARLY LOSING against Nunes before Nunes gassed and something tells me Aldo uses Nunes as a punching bag back at Nova Uniao. Don't get me wrong, I think Nunes is a solid fighter, but he's still the fighter who barely squeaked by Brown and Assuncao and Kenny lucked out that Nunes couldn't keep pace with him.

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Clearly beating someone in rd 1 means jack to me when the fight is 3 rounds . On that same card Munoz was CLEARLY LOSING to Maia after rd 1 and Herman was CLEARLY LOSING to Einemo but both won . Saying someone was winning until they lost is irrelevant imo.

Kenny could have looked lackluster because it was his first cut to 145,just guessing though.

I think what isnt being talked about enough is the experience and size gap of the 2 fighters.

[SPX]

Clearly beating someone in rd 1 means jack to me when the fight is 3 rounds . On that same card Munoz was CLEARLY LOSING to Maia after rd 1 and Herman was CLEARLY LOSING to Einemo but both won . Saying someone was winning until they lost is irrelevant imo.

My point is that there was a skill gap between Kenny and Nunes. Kenny ended up winning because Nunes gassed. But in terms of technical skills, Kenny got the short end of that stick.

How do you think Nunes' skills matchup to Aldo's?

[sbjj]

experience and size gap? Aldo has more fights than Kenny. Has fought 5 full rounds twice, as opposed to Kenny once. And what size gap? I think Aldo is the bigger guy. Kenny has like 4 inches of reach on him, but that is it.

[edman5555]

I don't really get why everyone is so caught up with Aldo's last fight, while there is little mention of Kenny's last fight (sans the Zombie Kenny remark).

Kenny was CLEARLY LOSING against Nunes before Nunes gassed and something tells me Aldo uses Nunes as a punching bag back at Nova Uniao. Don't get me wrong, I think Nunes is a solid fighter, but he's still the fighter who barely squeaked by Brown and Assuncao and Kenny lucked out that Nunes couldn't keep pace with him.

Besides, okay, Aldo had one lackluster showing . . . 1 in 9 fights. How did he look against Faber? How did he look against Brown? How did he look against Gamburyan? etc.

yeah

[edman5555]

Clearly beating someone in rd 1 means jack to me when the fight is 3 rounds . On that same card Munoz was CLEARLY LOSING to Maia after rd 1 and Herman was CLEARLY LOSING to Einemo but both won . Saying someone was winning until they lost is irrelevant imo.

Kenny could have looked lackluster because it was his first cut to 145,just guessing though.

I think what isnt being talked about enough is the experience and size gap of the 2 fighters.

yes

[sbjj]

I think GSP is going to lose to Condit because he lost the last round to Shields in his title fight last time out.

Point is, you either believe Aldo was just a myth who made fighters like Manny, Brown, and Faber look like kids or he had ONE off round because he was sick(which is what is reported) and had a bad cut.

No one really knows for sure, but I just do not believe his dominant wins over Faber and such were luck.

[edman5555]

My point is that there was a skill gap between Kenny and Nunes. Kenny ended up winning because Nunes gassed. But in terms of technical skills, Kenny got the short end of that stick.

How do you think Nunes' skills matchup to Aldo's?

arguable...you could also say nunes one the first round because he was so tenacious. However the tenacity was not sustainable for 3 rounds. After that, Kennys technique took over. That is what I think happened.

[Luke]

experience and size gap? Aldo has more fights than Kenny. Has fought 5 full rounds twice, as opposed to Kenny once. And what size gap? I think Aldo is the bigger guy. Kenny has like 4 inches of reach on him, but that is it.

I forgot number of fights equal experience not the quality of fighters you have fought.......so if I fought 40 local cans I'd be more experienced than Dan Henderson,got ya.

And what size gap? I think Aldo is the bigger guy.

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[edman5555]

experience and size gap? Aldo has more fights than Kenny. Has fought 5 full rounds twice, as opposed to Kenny once. And what size gap? I think Aldo is the bigger guy. Kenny has like 4 inches of reach on him, but that is it.

Kenny has been fighting MMA longer, they both have the same number of fights. Aldo has gotta be physically stronger, Kenny has the reach advantage. I would think Aldo has the wrestling advantage. Kenny might suprise us though. Kenny definetly has a shot though. I'm not certain Aldo has better HANDS than Kenny. His leg kicks gotta be better though. He has to have the best leg kicks in the division. It's hard to predict what is going to happen in this one IMO.

[edman5555]

I think GSP is going to lose to Condit because he lost the last round to Shields in his title fight last time out.

Point is, you either believe Aldo was just a myth who made fighters like Manny, Brown, and Faber look like kids or he had ONE off round because he was sick(which is what is reported) and had a bad cut.

No one really knows for sure, but I just do not believe his dominant wins over Faber and such were luck.

I agree. I no longer think Aldo is not capable of going the distance. Something happen in that fight to cause him to gas. Warning though, I do remember reading that Aldo added size for that fight. That may be the cause. You would think that he would have corrected it for this fight though. Obviously they would be well aware of it after his last outing.

[SPX]

arguable...you could also say nunes one the first round because he was so tenacious. However the tenacity was not sustainable for 3 rounds. After that, Kennys technique took over. That is what I think happened.

I'd need to go back and watch the fight again, but I remember Kenny basically winning because he turned it into a grappling match against a gassed opponent after getting hit in the face several times.

[sbjj]

I forgot number of fights equal experience not the quality of fighters you have fought.......so if I fought 40 local cans I'd be more experienced than Dan Henderson,got ya.



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Aldo has plenty of decent scalps. But I defer to you on who is good or bad.

As for Kenny being bigger...LOL! I guess because he came from LW you just autopilot that he is the bigger guy. I have little doubt that Aldo will be the heavier dude come fight night.

[sbjj]

I agree. I no longer think Aldo is not capable of going the distance. Something happen in that fight to cause him to gas. Warning though, I do remember reading that Aldo added size for that fight. That may be the cause. You would think that he would have corrected it for this fight though. Obviously they would be well aware of it after his last outing.

That is what worries me. But Aldo was coming off a layoff was he not?

[sbjj]

Food for thought. If Nunes would have dropped Florian 30 seconds earlier in the 3rd and was able to jump on him for the last 30 seconds of the fight. he would have beat Florian more than likely.