UFC 136

[SPX]

Sprawl? Is it possible to defend a Sonnen takedown?

[Mr. IWS]

Sprawl? Is it possible to defend a Sonnen takedown?

Only in the Matrix

[Thewisemann]

Stammering isn't gonna guillotine Sonnen. Miller and Marquardt both locked up Guillotines and didn't tap him. It's possible, but highly unlikely

[edman5555]

Yeah I will be on Sonnen as well as Guillard. I think Guillard by ko is almost gaurunteed.

[MMA_scientist]

Guillard is pretty much a lock IMO.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Stann beats Sonnen. Sonnen will probably be off the juice and revert to his pre-TRT form of losing 1 fight for every 1.5 fights he wins. However, he doesn't really look like he is off the stuff.

[edman5555]

Stann does pack some power, that is the only thing that concerns me. If you really take a look at Sonnens record he doesn't really do that bad. He just manages to get tapped out, rarely knocked out though. The guys that tap him out arent bums or anything either. Filho, Anderson and Demian Maia, Jeremy Horn, Renato Sobral. Good BJJ guys. He is 10 and 3 since losing to Horn in 2006. I think has fixeda lot of the holes in his ground game. That said, anything can happen. Maybe I should just bet Guillard and leave it at that.

[MMA_scientist]

I just hate Sonnen, so I think he is overrated. But really, I don't think Stann has the style to beat him, unless he has vastly improved his takedown defense. He hasn't though, so Sonnen is going to dry hump his way to a decision.

He is .500 in the UFC though, just sayin.

[sbjj]

Stann does pack some power, that is the only thing that concerns me. If you really take a look at Sonnens record he doesn't really do that bad. He just manages to get tapped out, rarely knocked out though. The guys that tap him out arent bums or anything either. Filho, Anderson and Demian Maia, Jeremy Horn, Renato Sobral. Good BJJ guys. He is 10 and 3 since losing to Horn in 2006. I think has fixeda lot of the holes in his ground game. That said, anything can happen. Maybe I should just bet Guillard and leave it at that.

Personally, I would bet Sonnen before I would bet Guillard. Sonnen can take a mean shot and is facing a guy that while improved on the ground, is not a BJJ phenom and is just not on Sonnens level with wrestling.

Guillard is just as prone to getting subbed(Lauzon can su dudes) and has been rocked by guys that do not hit as hard as Lauzon. I actually think Guillard is a somewhat risky bet.

It sort of amazes me that Guillard is a higher favorite against Lauzon than he was against Roller.

[edman5555]

I don't know how prone Guillard is to getting subbed at this point. He has gone a long time without it happening. Kinda like Chael. I think they are both learning some sub Defense. I agree with you about Lauzon being able to sub him if they go to the ground I just really disagree about Joe's ability to get the fight there. I don't think thats happening. Melvin is very hard to take down. I think most of his sub losses are because he opted to take down his opponent. On top of that, Joe will get blasted on the feet. He has no chance standing IMO. Guillard has never been knocked out BTW so lauzon is not going to be the first guy to do it. If this fight goes past the second round I will be suprised.

[sbjj]

I think Lauzon is going to try for the takedown harder than any of Guillards most recent opponents. I had a big bet on Guillard against Roller because I thought Roller would stand with Guillard, and his takedowns are actually pretty weak. But I really think Lauzon is going to pressure Guillard like he has not been pressured recently.

Meanwhile Sonnen has taken down and dominated 3 or 4 fighters whose TDD is far above that of Stann. And i think Sonnen is actually priced better.

i am not betting either straight up. But i was considering throwing Sonnen in some parlays.

[edman5555]

Yeah Stanna TDD isn't good. He knocked out Leben though. That worries me. I think it may have been a fluke though.

[poopoo333]

Yeah Stanna TDD isn't good. He knocked out Leben though. That worries me. I think it may have been a fluke though.

I'll save people the time:

"OMG CHRIS LEBEN WASN'T FEELING GOOD!!"

Guess what? If they fought again after Leben was cured by Ghandi or whoever the fuck cures people, Stann would still win.

[edman5555]

it might be true, it might not be. Who knows. Lebens chin could be shot, or not. Either way Chael has a good chin,.

[poopoo333]

I was just saying that because I knew somebody would throw that out there. I think Sonnen is gonna beat Stann easily.

[Vandelay]

I'll be on chael. Only time stann wins is when he fights guys who r sick