UFC 140

[sbjj]

I'll tell you. The more I watch the Nog-Schaub fight(and it is like a dagger in the heart each time) the more I think that was a case of Schaub being a dumb ass and not Nog being "back".

[AC88]

I lost a lot on Nog vs. Schaub, but I absolutely don't see how Nog beats Mir. I think almost everyone here lost on that Schaub Nog fight.

[SPX]

Yeah, I had like 5u take a dive into the abyss, but as a fan it was nice to see Nog win.

[mike]

i'm betting more on this event, risking more than 1/2 my bankroll. hope it goes well. Already had 4u on Hallman, 5u on Chollish, 1u on Jaboun, 1u on Hamman. That's all for now but tempting to make a few more parlay bets. Only have a 20u bankroll, $50/u.

[SPX]

How has using a 20u bankroll been working out for you?

[mike]

How has using a 20u bankroll been working out for you?

tbh, I dont know the difference between using a 20u bankroll or other types. I just happened to start my bankroll with $400 so i broke that down to 20u, $20/u. My br went up to ~40u and I wanted to increase my bet amount so I make it back to 20u and $50/u. It's also easier for me to calculate the risk/winning amount for the given odds.

[SPX]

Indeed. I've considered doing that. I've had a swing of about 30u before though (from about 15 up to about 15 down) and I'd be worried about losing it all.

[poopoo333]

I wouldn't do well with a 20u bankroll unless I stuck to betting to only win 0.5u-1uish for awhile. I can't wait until next year to increase my roll/bet more $. I just need to make sure I don't lack discirpine

[SPX]

Yeah, I just don't know if I could handle that losing a 5u bet would mean that a quarter of my roll is wiped out.

[poopoo333]

Yeah, I just don't know if I could handle that losing a 5u bet would mean that a quarter of my roll is wiped out.

Yeah, exactly. It would make me want to go into chase mode. But with a 20u bet...5u bets wouldn't be something done much would it?

[mike]

I ended up betting more money per event since I switched to $50/u. Maybe because betting 4u with $50/u sounds alot less than betting 10u with $20/u. But I'm kinda tired of betting little on fights with little return when I usually have to spend quite some time researching and watching old fights to make those bets. but yeah, using 20u br, sometimes I get carried away and bet more than I should. If it doesnt go well, I would destroy my br quickly.

[MMA_scientist]

I don't worry about losing it all, but I do worry about tilt from losing a large percentage of it. But more importantly, assuming you adjust your unit size to always 5% of your bankroll, if you have a 20u bankroll, and you lose 5u, it is going to take a lot longer to climb out of that hole than if you have a 50 or 100u bankroll. If you lose 25% of your bankroll, you would have to effectively win 33% of your bankroll to make it back to even.

For example, if you had 100 dollars, and you lost 25 (5u). Then your new bankroll of $75 would give you a unit of $3.75 (75/20). You would have to bet and win 8.3u to make back the 5u you lost. The fewer units in your bankroll, the more dramatic this effect is.


Whereas in that same scenario if you have a 100u bankroll, and lose 5u (5%) you would only have to win 5.26u to get bak to even.

Of course, it works the other way too. You win more. I don't think it is very wise long term but it can definitely be done if you play tight and actually do the homework.

[SPX]

But with a 20u bankroll...5u bets wouldn't be something done much would it?

If I was working with that kind of bankroll, I would ONLY make bets to win a unit or less.

So 5u would only happen if I was better a -500 fave, but I DO do that on occasion. Might be a little more hesitant to take big faves with a 20u roll, though.

[SPX]

I don't worry about losing it all, but I do worry about tilt from losing a large percentage of it. But more importantly, assuming you adjust your unit size to always 5% of your bankroll, if you have a 20u bankroll, and you lose 5u, it is going to take a lot longer to climb out of that hole than if you have a 50 or 100u bankroll. If you lose 25% of your bankroll, you would have to effectively win 33% of your bankroll to make it back to even.

For example, if you had 100 dollars, and you lost 25 (5u). Then your new bankroll of $75 would give you a unit of $3.75 (75/20). You would have to bet and win 8.3u to make back the 5u you lost. The fewer units in your bankroll, the more dramatic this effect is.


Whereas in that same scenario if you have a 100u bankroll, and lose 5u (5%) you would only have to win 5.26u to get bak to even.

Of course, it works the other way too. You win more. I don't think it is very wise long term but it can definitely be done if you play tight and actually do the homework.

Yes. I check my balls frequently to see if they're big enough for me to try it, and thus far they have not been.

I will say though that with my ~50u roll (which is really more like 60u right now . . . need to update my sig), if I drop below 50u, I don't drop my unit size. It stays at $20.

[mike]

yeah I should go with 50u br. i think that will work out better for me in the long run. although I hate betting so little for the work i put in.