UFC 140

[SPX]

Is it Me or does Jones have some luck on him? He fights an ill prepared Shogun to win the title, and then Machida gasses after a Machida-fight round which allows Jones to be the first guy to defend the belt twice since Chuck in 2006.

I really haven't figured it out yet. Is he good? Obviously he is. He's VERY good. But I keep thinking his flaws just haven't been exploited yet.

I know the Bonnar fight was forever ago, but he clearly showed some cardio issues in that fight. And I know he reportedly told his corner that he was tired going into the final round of the Shogun fight.

Personally, I was hoping that Machida could keep it close (maybe win a round or two?) going into the championship rounds and then take advantage of a tired Jones. But it just wasn't meant to be, I guess.

[Ludo]

I really haven't figured it out yet. Is he good? Obviously he is. He's VERY good. But I keep thinking his flaws just haven't been exploited yet.

I know the Bonnar fight was forever ago, but he clearly showed some cardio issues in that fight. And I know he reportedly told his corner that he was tired going into the final round of the Shogun fight.

Personally, I was hoping that Machida could keep it close (maybe win a round or two?) going into the championship rounds and then take advantage of a tired Jones. But it just wasn't meant to be, I guess.

There's no doubt he's very good. He clearly has holes in his game but he has so much athleticism it's very hard to capitalize on them. His physical traits and athleticism lend so much of a learning curve to his age and limited time in a sport that has a striking component to it. Sitting outside doesn't do much because he's got 84" of reach and likes to throw kicks. Trying to get inside doesn't pan out so well because he likes to throw knee's and has a great wrestling base. It's going to come down to someone who can match his pace, wrestling, and get inside to throw a real good power shot in one punch because Jones doesn't usually stick around long enough for a good combo to land.

Right now there are only three guys with a snowballs chance. Rashad Evans, Dan Henderson(though he's the least likely to get it done) and King Mo provided that his knee isn't completely fucked by then.

[AC88]

Yes, I believe that it's going to take someone who does EVERYTHING he can do and BETTER than him to beat him.

[SPX]

Yes, I believe that it's going to take someone who does EVERYTHING he can do and BETTER than him to beat him.

FUCK YOU!

NEGGED!

AND BANNED! AGAIN!

[SPX]

Yes, I believe that it's going to take someone who does EVERYTHING he can do and BETTER than him to beat him.

No, for real, that would obviously be ideal but I think the next best hope is someone who can land a punch flush and with devastating power, which is why I give Hendo a shot. And I also think Rashad might be able to do something.

[MMA_scientist]

Jones is invincible. I would say Machida has done the best against him, seeing as he was actually winning the fight up until he got stopped. But I honestly think the fact that he was winning has more to do with Jones wanting to prove he could stand. Jones could probably have taken him down and pounded on him at any time. I think Jones will lose by being outwrestled and just generally pushed. No one has put him on his back yet. Everyone is cautious against him, I think a Sonnen-type pressing forward attack will be his undoing. The problem is that there aren't any guys that fight like that @ LHW that I can think of. AT MW, there are several guys, @ WW that is all they do. But @ LHW, can't think of anyone who really grinds and pushes forward like that. Couture used to do it.

[Vandelay]

King mo and Chael if he moves up. Barnett and cain at HW.

[MMA_scientist]

Mo doesn't really press though and make it ugly. He stands on the outside for the most part... he was letting Roger keep him on the end of his jab until he finally lunged in and clipped him. Jones would kill Mo IMO.

[Vandelay]

Yea roger...nough said. He was sticking to both mousasi and cavalcante for the most part.

[MMA_scientist]

Well it could be that he just didn't respect Roger's striking, and he (correctly) thought he could outbox him without having to get too close and give Roger the opportunity to take him down.

He came to wrestle with Mousasi and Feijao.

[poopoo333]

Shogun has always had suspect cardio, even in Pride. In the UFC it just got worse.

Phil Davis, Rashad, I guess Hendo, Gustafsson (maybe), King Mo, and Feijao are all interesting match ups for Jones. I would prefer to see Phil Davis keep getting better before they fight. I think Jones is going to be champ for a real long time. He is only going to get better.

[Luke]

BTW, considering that Lyoto took a round off of Jones . . . but lasted fewer rounds than Shogun and Rampage . . . how does everyone rate his performance?

Lyoto didnt take a round off Jones. Two of the three judges scored the first rd 10-9 for Jones

[MMA_scientist]

Lyoto didnt take a round off Jones. Two of the three judges scored the first rd 10-9 for Jones

Really? I don't see how Jones would have won Round 1. I gave it to Machida too.

[Luke]

Really? I don't see how Jones would have won Round 1. I gave it to Machida too.

I also gave it to Machida but the judges did not.

[SPX]

Lyoto took a round off Jones.