UFC 143

[trotterz]

I read it in the comments on the UFC forum. I will try to find the link. Does not mean anything, some random poster on the internet saying his brother in law gave him his bjj bb in order to help him get in the UFC, and that he has shown blue belt level skills- maybe it is true, probably not. But apparently he was KO'd in the WCL as well, so his undefeated record is just a flat out lie.

His opponent does submit people, so it makes me a little nervous. I might put him in a small parlay: Koscheck/Stephens/Riddle/Poirier is +220. I might do that.

I am probably going to do Poirier for sure, but I am trying to find something else to go with it.

talking about Poirier, there was also a video of him getting knocked out on youtube ... looked like a regional show ... don't know why it is not on his record, maybe it was an amateur fight.

[MMA_scientist]

Thoughts on Jorgenson +200?

I think he can win. I like it.

Barao has been dominant lately, but he has also been in some pretty close scraps, but usually manages to get a submission (I think he was actually losing to Leone before he pulled off the sub). @+200, its worth a play IMO. He will probably lose, but he has a definite path to victory IMO.

[poopoo333]

I was thinking..with the UFC expansion/more shows...there are going to be a lot of new fighters we know nothing about. We should probably start getting research done early on these fighters...as we might get good lines on them before they become a little more known.

[poopoo333]

Ill be all over diaz/condit fotn at plus odds.

Yeah, it will probably be +200, +250 at best though

[MMA_scientist]

where can i that, scientist? if thats true, theres a great chance of an upset here

I read it in the comments on the UFC forum. I will try to find the link. Does not mean anything, some random poster on the internet saying his brother in law gave him his bjj bb in order to help him get in the UFC, and that he has shown blue belt level skills- maybe it is true, probably not. But apparently he was KO'd in the WCL as well, so his undefeated record is just a flat out lie.

His opponent does submit people, so it makes me a little nervous. I might put him in a small parlay: Koscheck/Stephens/Riddle/Poirier is +220. I might do that.

I am probably going to do Poirier for sure, but I am trying to find something else to go with it.

[Vandelay]

Ill probably throw a unit on Jorgensen. Dont really expect him to win, but he should be able to hold his own on the feet long enough to get a takedown and stall.

[Vandelay]

Ill be all over diaz/condit fotn at plus odds.

[Thewisemann]

Thoughts on Jorgenson +200?

[mike]

where can i that, scientist? if thats true, theres a great chance of an upset here

[MMA_scientist]

Reading that his bjj blackbelt is not real, and that he has pretty limited ground skills. Also his kickboxing record does not reflect reality. Going so stay away and see how it goes.

[MMA_scientist]

That karate guy is a bjj blackbelt. Someone already said that I guess...

The guy he is fighting is some kind of submission specialist, but it looks like the karate guy could be a real badass. It might be our one and only chance to get this kid at less than -500 for the foreseeable future. I am going to try to find some vids on him and his opponent.

[MMA_scientist]

Caceres is better than I thought he was.

After seeing how good Jim Hettes is and how well he did with Escovedo, I had to re-think my original position on Caceres (that he was terrible, didn't belong, would go 0-3 and be gone forever).

[mike]

Figueroa is a slugger with a not so impressive ground game. Reinhart took him down once or twice and Reinhart is the worst can of cans. If Caceres go for takedown, I think he wins. Standing, he is not a fish out of water either. He is also fighting at 145 now, right? instead of 155.

[Ludo]

Wow. If only I had a Bookmaker account I would smash the shit out of Figueroa's line. Caceres is only getting some love because he put the hurt on Cole Escovedo.

[Luke]

MICHAEL KUIPER PK+200 - - RAFAEL NATAL PK-260 -