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  • Ludo
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 4931

    #16
    Originally posted by edman5555
    Well GSP could go down to lightweight and Kos can move up to 185 so its not totally impossible. He can even fight for the title again with 4 or 5 good wins. He will come to wrestle though, maybe G and P?
    GSP will go up to Middleweight before he goes down to Lightweight. His frame is too big for 155 anyway. By the time Koscheck has enough steam for a title shot again GSP will have vacated the title after clearing the whole division out(which he's about two fights away from right now).
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    • SPX
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      • Aug 2009
      • 23875

      #17
      Yes, GSP is close to clearing out the division, but by the time he's beaten Condit and Ellenberger, Rory McDonald might be in line, and then by the time he's beaten McDonald there will be someone new that's climbing up through the ranks. Basically, there will always be SOMEONE you can make an argument for.
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      • Ludo
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        • Jan 2010
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        #18
        Originally posted by SPX
        Yes, GSP is close to clearing out the division, but by the time he's beaten Condit and Ellenberger, Rory McDonald might be in line, and then by the time he's beaten McDonald there will be someone new that's climbing up through the ranks. Basically, there will always be SOMEONE you can make an argument for.
        Just because guys like Fitch and Koscheck have gotten beaten and badly by GSP doesn't mean Condit, Ellenberger, and Macdonald necessarily DESERVE a title shot. Ellenberger has a decent case having just beaten Shields but Condit hasn't beaten a single high ranked contender other than possibly Ellenberger in his UFC stretch.
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        • edman5555
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          • Apr 2010
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          #19
          well gsps trainer came out and said his frame is not big enough for 185 and he would most likely go down to 155 if he moved, depending on whether or not frankei edgar is champ. They both train at renzo's. Also rory trains with Gsp and considers him a mentor.
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          • zY|
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 8385

            #20
            GSP has 'cleaned the division out' about 3 times. There will always be somebody.
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            • Ludo
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              • Jan 2010
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              #21
              Originally posted by edman5555
              well gsps trainer came out and said his frame is not big enough for 185 and he would most likely go down to 155 if he moved, depending on whether or not frankei edgar is champ. They both train at renzo's. Also rory trains with Gsp and considers him a mentor.
              GSP's trainer said he would prefer St Pierre to move down than up but the notion is a ridiculous one.
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              • SPX
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                • Aug 2009
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                #22
                Originally posted by edman5555
                well gsps trainer came out and said his frame is not big enough for 185 and he would most likely go down to 155 if he moved, depending on whether or not frankei edgar is champ. They both train at renzo's. Also rory trains with Gsp and considers him a mentor.
                GSP at 155 would just be bizarre. I can't even imagine it.
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                • Ludo
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                  • Jan 2010
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by edman5555
                  well gsps trainer came out and said his frame is not big enough for 185 and he would most likely go down to 155 if he moved, depending on whether or not frankei edgar is champ. They both train at renzo's. Also rory trains with Gsp and considers him a mentor.
                  Since when does GSP train at Renzo's? I've heard of GSP going to train with Roger in the UK and training with Renzo for the fight with Shields but as far as I've ever known he does most of his training in Montreal with select members of Jacksons going up there to help him prepare. Frankie trains in Jersey with Pellegrino and Almeida mainly. I don't think Frankie is a mainstay member of Renzo's team. Even if he was I doubt GSP would have a problem fighting him. Like I said the majority of GSP's training occurs in canada where he brings people in to help him.
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                  • MMA_scientist
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                    • Nov 2009
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                    #24
                    Since always. GSP got his BB from Renzo and it was an issue of contention in the Serra fights, since Serra is also a Renzo Gracie BB.
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                    • edman5555
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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 6628

                      #25
                      Yes. Also, GSP at 155 isn't that big a stretch. He does Olympic weightlifing a la PooPoo to stay big. Faras Zahabi did an interview where he said GSP basically has to lift weights to stay big(I guess they all do to a degree). I think if he could get his normal body weight down to 175-180 he could make the cut. He used to be around that if you remember. He recenlty said he was pushing up to 193 with weight lifting. It actually makes more sense to go down now that I think about it. He is pushing it hard with weighting lifting just to get up around middeweight. Those guys are cutting from 200+. GSP would have to get pretty muscle bound. He is only about 5'10'' btw.
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                      • SPX
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 23875

                        #26
                        I've just always felt that GSP looks relatively thin even as a WW. Yes, he's muscular and ripped, but he's never looked particularly thick, at least not to me.
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                        • poopoo333
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                          • Jan 2010
                          • 18302

                          #27
                          Erik Cock vs Dustin Poirer

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                          • SPX
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 23875

                            #28
                            That will be a good fight. Line should be even, in my opinion.
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                            • poopoo333
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                              • Jan 2010
                              • 18302

                              #29
                              Cock -165

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                              • SPX
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 23875

                                #30
                                If either guy comes in as any significant kind of dog then I think he's worth a bet. I think this fight could totally go either way.
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