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  • Ludo
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    • Jan 2010
    • 4931

    Originally posted by Vandelay
    Wrong. Bendo landed an upkick, and a cpl good shots in the the latter half of the fight. Edgar arguably won rds 1,2,3 and 5. 2nd, 3rd and 5th rds were close. 2nd and 5th rds bendo simply did work the last 10 seconds, but the other 4:50 was all edgar.
    Trolling 100% of the time. Doing work because he caught kicks AFTER they landed and did nothing but let them go after a couple seconds? Or because he landed takedowns and literally landed like 3 strikes on the ground for the entirety of the fight? Or maybe because he spent the whole fight being advanced on in a close striking fight he didn't get the better of...
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    • Vandelay
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1934

      Trolling because I think the fight could have easily gone the other way...ok.

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      • SPX
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        • Aug 2009
        • 23875

        It wasn't a blowout, but it wasn't really close either. I really had no doubts that Bendo was going to get the decision when the final horn sounded.
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        • Ludo
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          • Jan 2010
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          It was a competitive fight, but there wasn't much mystery as to who was winning those rounds.
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          • SPX
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            • Aug 2009
            • 23875

            Better days for Edgar. . .


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            • Luke
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              • Oct 2006
              • 30060

              A bloody nose= losing under the unified rules ............look it up ,bol.
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              • poopoo333
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                • Jan 2010
                • 18302

                I'm still traumatized from this event.

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                • edman5555
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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 6628

                  i had money on bendo and i felt pretty good going into the decision..
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                  • edman5555
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                    • Apr 2010
                    • 6628

                    I was a little worried Frankie might be able to steal some rounds with his punch volume and short takedowns but I think Bendo won it pretty clearly. At least if you go by Damage. Octagon control was clearly in Bendos favor as well.
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                    • poopoo333
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                      • Jan 2010
                      • 18302

                      I bet a shitload on Frankie like an idiot because I chased like a fucking dumb motherfucker but I had no doubt Bendo won that fight.

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                      • Ludo
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                        • Jan 2010
                        • 4931

                        Originally posted by Luke
                        A bloody nose= losing under the unified rules ............look it up ,bol.
                        the butthurt is strong with this one.
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                        • Luke
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                          Originally posted by Ludo
                          the butthurt is strong with this one.
                          You just can't deal with that you're retarded and have ZERO idea how to score a round. Effective striking has ZERO to do with damage .....look it up. Oh,I will for you:

                          Effective striking is judged by determining the total number of legal strikes landed by a contestant.


                          And grappling since some of you are clueless and think takedowns don't count if you don't hold them for 5 minutes :

                          Effective grappling is judged by considering the amount of successful executions of a legal takedown and reversals. Examples of factors to consider are take downs from standing position to mount position, passing the guard to mount position, and bottom position fighters using an active, threatening guard.

                          No where, in ANY rule book, does it say harder punches,or those that do more damage, are to be scored more.

                          It's okay to argue a side of something you have no idea what about but when you keep doing it, when you had a chance to look it up,you're just a dumbass.
                          Last edited by Luke; 02-27-2012, 06:57 PM.
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                          • Luke
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                            • Oct 2006
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                            Originally posted by edman5555
                            I was a little worried Frankie might be able to steal some rounds with his punch volume and short takedowns but I think Bendo won it pretty clearly. At least if you go by Damage. Octagon control was clearly in Bendos favor as well.
                            That's the thing ........damage isn't scored over takedowns and strike volume. I can take that point of view if you're looking at the fight that way(even though its not by the rule book) but Ludo and SPX are acting like I'm wrong ,and my argument doesn't make sense, when I'm going straight by the rule book and they are going but whatever they make up.

                            Not once have I said Edgar won the fight but I am arguing the fight was a lot closer than two people who have no idea how to score a fight are making it out to be.
                            Last edited by Luke; 02-27-2012, 07:05 PM.
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                            • Ludo
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                              • Jan 2010
                              • 4931

                              Originally posted by Luke
                              You just can't deal with that you're retarded and have ZERO idea how to score a round. Effective striking has ZERO to do with damage .....look it up. Oh,I will for you:

                              And grappling since some of you idiots think takedowns don't count if you don't hold them for 5 minutes :

                              No where, in ANY rule book, does it say harder punches,or those that do more damage, are to be scored more.

                              It's okay to argue a side of something you have no idea what about but when you keep doing it, when you had a chance to look it up,you're just a dumbass.
                              Yeah, all that. Except you conveniently left out about half the striking quote. Let Me help you:

                              "Effective striking is judged by determining the number of legal strikes landed by a contestant and the significance of such legal strikes."

                              http://www.abcboxing.com/unified_mma_rules.html
                              What that means, My dear Watson, is that landing a strike that say rocks an opponent, drops him, swells his eye shut, breaks his nose, etc etc etc is to be weighted more than a jab that doesn't so much as snap an opponent's head back.

                              If your really going to start proposing that a takedown that has someone on the mat for less than a five count is effective grappling, then so is getting back up to your feet in less than a five count. So if we're going to judge takedowns why aren't we giving more weight to the 7 takedowns Frankie Edgar didn't have success with than the 5 he did? 7 is more than 5. Ya dig?

                              Look, don't be such a sandy vagina. It was competitive and close but not controversial. 124 strikes to 114 if we're going by compustrike's numbers as opposed to zYmetric's (who had it 100 strikes to 81 in favor of Bendo). We are literally talking about 24.2 strikes per round to 23.66 per round on Compustrike's side. When the numbers are that close together it's time to start judging quality over quantity.
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                              • Luke
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                                • Oct 2006
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                                I didn't leave anything out of the quote,pulled it right off the UFC's site. Check :



                                If your really going to start proposing that a takedown that has someone on the mat for less than a five count is effective grappling, then so is getting back up to your feet in less than a five count.
                                Again,you're just making up whatever you want because that is not what the rulebook says. The rulebook says takedowns are effective grappling,it doesn't say getting back up in less than a 5 count is effective grappling .


                                Effective grappling is judged by considering the amount of successful executions of a legal takedown and reversals. Examples of factors to consider are take downs from standing position to mount position, passing the guard to mount position, and bottom position fighters using an active, threatening guard
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                                Last edited by Luke; 02-27-2012, 07:30 PM.
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