UFC on Fox 2

[Mr. IWS]

Fuck it, money where my mouth is.

5u on Sonnen to win 1.1u. Bisping ain't winning that fight.

Yezzir

[SPX]

Fucking Bookmaker is full of fail.

If they would go ahead and open the Dunham line I think I'd go ahead and take him.

[MMA_scientist]

IWS is going to get Sonnen'd. I am going to jump on the grenade here and take Bisping... someone has to do it.

IWS is out of control on Sonnen hype. No fight is a lock like you guys are talking... much less against a top 10 fighter in Bisping. What are you going to do if Bisping comes out and gets a takedown? That is what always happens in these types of fights, the guy that has no chance always does something surprising...

[SPX]

Bisping gets a takedown. . .

BISPING GETS A TAKEDOWN!!!!!!!!!

BOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zY|]

Yeah, I wasn't going to say anything, but I could see a Marquarting happening here. Sonnen should win due to the style matchup, but Bisping ain't no bitch.

[SPX]

With that said, if Bisping DID somehow get a takedown just by taking Sonnen off guard I'm sure that the situation was very quickly be reversed.

[SPX]

Yeah, I wasn't going to say anything, but I could see a Marquarting happening here. Sonnen should win due to the style matchup, but Bisping ain't no bitch.

Like you say, it's just a HORRIBLE style matchup. Bisping never KOs anyone and Sonnen has never been knocked out.

And if Bisping can be taken down by Miller, then Sonnen should accomplish TDs very easily.

My main fear is Bisping somehow catching a triangle or some crazy shit like that.

[MMA_scientist]

Ok. Sonnen is invincible. Don't say you guy were not warned. Bisping gets taken down pretty easily but he is kind of hard to hold there.

You laught like it can't happen, but Bisping did take Rashad down FWIW. He also stuffed him a lot and reversed him to top position. He only fought one other wrestler, Hammil. Hammil did get him down a couple times, but couldn't keep him there at all. I do think Sonnen will get some takedowns, but I think it will a lot harder to hold him there than you guys do.

[MMA_scientist]

Don't get me wrong, I think Sonnen will win also... but I won't be surprised at all if Bisping takes the last 2 rounds with insane cardio and popping up after every takedown. I just don't think it is like a lock of the century or anything. The thing about Miller.... he doesn't suck, he just looked like he did when he fought Bisping.

[SPX]

I'll say this shit, you can get Sonnen right now at -445. I've seen you take bets at similar odds on riskier fights than this one. So clearly your Sonnen hate is clouding your vision.

[MMA_scientist]

I have never paid -400 for anyone over another top ten fighter that I can recall. I don't believe in invincible men, I have said as much many times... about Anderson, Fedor, BJ... I don't pay more than -400 very often for anyone at any level... obviously I do it sometimes, but it is pretty rare for me to go over -400 on a fight.

Also, your assessment of what is a risky fight probably differs a lot from mine. I have bet Sonnen to win several times, BTW, when I think it is worth it.

[SPX]

Fuck you, Scientist!

[MMA_scientist]

I am going to place my bet on Bisping, only to break the curse, because I do expect Sonnen to win. I hate Bisping equally, so I will root for Sonnen just for you and Wiseman. I might do a distance prop. I think that is going to a decision, neither guy is a real finisher.

[SPX]

Well I appreciate your curse-breaker. And Sonnen via RNC.

[Vandelay]

I agree that Bisping is hard to hole down, but sonnen should be able to do it. Sonnen hold's every1 down. Every1 and he will just keep taking him down if bisping is able to get up. And Matt hamill isn't on the same level of wrestling as Sonnen is. At least in mma.