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[sbjj]

Why would you bet Sonnen @ -450 or higher, when you can bet Dunham @ -280? I actually think Dunham is more of a lock.

Sonnen gets subbed, and Bisping has a decent guard. I also think Sonnen will win, but the line is ridiculous.

Dunham-Camozzi parlay is what I am thinking.

[SPX]

I would bet Dunham at the current odds if I had 5d.

[poopoo333]

I'm thinking about a 5u bet on Dunham/Sonnen. I will probably just bet Dunham straight too.

[sbjj]

I'm with Scientist here man. I think Sonnen @ that price is just dangerous. It is not like Bisping sucks. I think there will be much better bets on the undercard.

[sbjj]

I'm thinking about a 5u bet on Dunham/Sonnen. I will probably just bet Dunham straight too.

I kinda like that better than playing him straight.

[SPX]

I'm with Scientist here man. I think Sonnen @ that price is just dangerous. It is not like Bisping sucks. I think there will be much better bets on the undercard.

So how does he win?

Does he knock Sonnen out? Decision him? Sub him? I mean, there's always the fluke, but discounting that, what is his path to victory?

No one seems to have one.

[sbjj]

He could sub him. I actually think Bisping has better subs than Anderson Silva. At least he seems to have a more active guard.

I actually think Sonnen might get the better of the stand up. And more than likely he wins. I just hate to bet such long odds on a guy who is not the definition of dependable. Those long odds to me are only for guys like GSP and mismatches like Couture-Toney. But in all actuality I just try to stay away from bets like this period. I say if you want to bet 10 units 0n Sonnen to win 2...just bet 4 units on Sonnen-Dunham to win 2. Might save you 6 units.

[SPX]

He could sub him. I actually think Bisping has better subs than Anderson Silva. At least he seems to have a more active guard.

He doesn't have a single submission win in the UFC. He may have an active guard, but what's that mean if he never actually finishes anyone?

I just hate to bet such long odds on a guy who is not the definition of dependable.

I understand the sentiment, but in reality he only gets subbed by guys who have proven submission prowess. Silva, Maia, Filho, etc.

Even Marquardt couldn't lock anything in.

[poopoo333]

mismatches like Couture-Toney.

I still hate myself for not putting my life savings on Couture @-460.

Even Marquardt couldn't lock anything in.

Except a guillotine that Sonnen gutted out of.

[SPX]

Except a guillotine that Sonnen gutted out of.

Well that wasn't locked in then, was it?

[poopoo333]

Well that wasn't locked in then, was it?

It was, but Sonnen just waited until Marquardt got tired

[SPX]

Well it's a choke, not a headlock. If it had been "locked in" in the sense that I mean it, then Sonnen either would've been forced to tap or go to sleep.

[mike]

Why would you bet Sonnen @ -450 or higher, when you can bet Dunham @ -280? I actually think Dunham is more of a lock.

Sonnen gets subbed, and Bisping has a decent guard. I also think Sonnen will win, but the line is ridiculous.

Dunham-Camozzi parlay is what I am thinking.

i dont remember any of Camozzí's fight how or he fights. Does he use wrestling and often goes for TD ? Is he a wrestler ?

[edman5555]

Chael gets subbed by very good black belts. Bisping never subs anyone.

[MMA_scientist]

I doubt Bisping will submit him. Sonnen gets subbed, but he spends a lot of time in guard. Per minute of being inside the guard, his submission rate is probably pretty low. I think Bisping could win by using his underrated wrestling and just having a higher work rate standing. I agree though, that there is not a real viable path for him. Its just, he wins. He usually finds a way to win or at least keep it really close. He hasn't really been dominated in a fight, other than when Hendo KO'd him. But up until the KO, it was a pretty even fight (Bisping tried to take Hendo down too, but he got massively stuffed).

You know what? Sonnen is going to win this.