2012 Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

[SPX]

I've never even heard of most of the movies you mention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_of_the_will

[SPX]

Who did Machida fight for #1 contender status when he just got choked out by the champ? He shouldn't be one fight away from a title shot after being finished the way he was by the champ, especially when all he did was beat Ryan Bader post hype train derailment.

I agree that Machida really should have to get one more win to legitimately be considered a title contender.

The win over Bader was a good one though considering the way that Bader pretty dominantly beat Rampage.

[Ludo]

I agree that Machida really should have to get one more win to legitimately be considered a title contender.

The win over Bader was a good one though considering the way that Bader pretty dominantly beat Rampage.

He beat Rampage, but that in itself is a hollow concept nowadays. Rampage has become a novelty at best with his steady lack of commitment.

[SPX]

Rampage isn't at the very top anymore but even shitty current day Rampage is going to beat 90% of the division.

[Ludo]

Rampage isn't at the very top anymore but even shitty current day Rampage is going to beat 90% of the division.

I disagree. Bader isn't even in the top 75% of the division and he handled Rampage after the first round aside from that slam Rampage put on him. I would favor a ton of guys to beat Rampage right now.

[Ludo]

The current UFC Light Heavyweight roster according to UFC.com.

Ryan Bader
Vitor Belfort
Joey Beltran
Stephan Bonnar
Randy Couture
Phil Davis
Cyrille Diabate
Rashad Evans
Forrest Griffin
Chad Griggs
Alexander Gustafsson
Matt Hamill
Dan Henderson
Roger Hollett
Rampage Jackson
Ryan Jimmo
Jon Jones
Kyle Kingsbury
Jorgen Kruth
Chuck Liddell
Lyoto Machida
Vinny Magalhaes
Fabio Maldonado
Jimi Manuwa
Vladimir Matyushenko
Stanislav Nedkov
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Tito Ortiz
Nick Penner
Anthony Perosh
Igor Pokrajac
Wagner Prado
Mauricio Rua
Thiago Silva
Chael Sonnen
Krzysztof Soszynski
James Te Huna
Glover Teixeira
Brandon Vera


Which of these guys would you say he beats without a shadow of a doubt? Aside from a few of the retired ones I'm not seeing a whole lot of "Rampage would ghost this guy" in there, certainly nowhere close to 90% of them.

[poopoo333]

Ryan Bader
Vitor Belfort
Joey Beltran
Stephan Bonnar
Randy Couture
Phil Davis
Cyrille Diabate
Rashad Evans
Forrest Griffin
Chad Griggs
Alexander Gustafsson
Matt Hamill
Dan Henderson
Roger Hollett
Rampage Jackson
Ryan Jimmo
Jon Jones
Kyle Kingsbury
Jorgen Kruth
Chuck Liddell
Lyoto Machida
Vinny Magalhaes
Fabio Maldonado
Jimi Manuwa ??who dat
Vladimir Matyushenko
Stanislav Nedkov
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Tito Ortiz
Nick Penner
Anthony Perosh
Igor Pokrajac
Wagner Prado
Mauricio Rua
Thiago Silva
Chael Sonnen
Krzysztof Soszynski
James Te Huna
Glover Teixeira
Brandon Vera


Which of these guys would you say he beats without a shadow of a doubt? Aside from a few of the retired ones I'm not seeing a whole lot of "Rampage would ghost this guy" in there, certainly nowhere close to 90% of them.

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[poopoo333]

I would actually LOVE to see Maldonado vs Rampage

[Ludo]

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I don't disagree on most of those, though I think Nedkov would have a shot and the jury is still out on Prado.

[SPX]

I disagree. Bader isn't even in the top 75% of the division and he handled Rampage after the first round aside from that slam Rampage put on him. I would favor a ton of guys to beat Rampage right now.

Bader not even in the top 75%? WTF? So he'll only beat 1 in 4 guys that he fights? Did you mean top 25%?

Sherdog has Bader at #9 in their rankings. Rampage is #10. I think that's probably about right.

[SPX]

Which of these guys would you say he beats without a shadow of a doubt? Aside from a few of the retired ones I'm not seeing a whole lot of "Rampage would ghost this guy" in there, certainly nowhere close to 90% of them.

I don't know about "without a shadow of a doubt" or the manner in which he would win these fights, but I would favor Rampage against the vast majority of that list.

A better question is who would I NOT favor him against. Jones, Evans, Gustaffson, Hendo and Machida I think would all beat him. Beyond those guys, I think it either could go either way (Belfort, Sonnen, Davis, Rua) or Rampage would win.

[Ludo]

I don't know about "without a shadow of a doubt" or the manner in which he would win these fights, but I would favor Rampage against the vast majority of that list.

A better question is who would I NOT favor him against. Jones, Evans, Gustaffson, Hendo and Machida I think would all beat him. Beyond those guys, I think it either could go either way (Belfort, Sonnen, Davis, Rua) or Rampage would win.

I don't see him beating Davis or Sonnen to be honest. After the first round it probably ends up looking alot like Bader/Rampage. I think Glover beats Rampage as well.

[SPX]

I don't see him beating Davis or Sonnen to be honest. After the first round it probably ends up looking alot like Bader/Rampage. I think Glover beats Rampage as well.

Sonnen needs to take a fight at 205 to really be on the list I think, but yeah, I would probably favor him. Not sure about Davis. We saw what happened the last time Davis fought a top guy. I could definitely see Rampage stuffing his takedowns and just boxing him up like he did against Hamill. But who knows. That's why I threw it into the "either way" category.

As for Glover, I really don't know enough to have an opinion. He beat up a bunch of guys in Brazil and killed Kyle Kingsbury.

I'll say this, that list is one shy of including 40 names and I could find less than 10 that I felt like had a shot to beat Rampage, and even some of those 10 I think Rampage might be able to beat. That to me says that a win over Rampage still means something.

[SPX]

Dana on Rousey:

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/9/17/3345986/dana-white-says-ronda-rousey-a-rock-star

[SPX]

Uh oh, new Robocop costume:

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/robocop-suit-revealed-first-photo-remake-163723915.html