UFC 146

[Luke]

Tonight is one of those nights where I am going to collapse, or come out way ahead.

War Struve.
War Cain.
War JDS.
War JDS/Frank Mir not going to decision.

think I'd hope for the second one

[Svino]

Tonight is one of those nights where I am going to collapse, or come out way ahead.

War Struve.
War Cain.
War JDS.
War JDS/Frank Mir not going to decision.

Same here. Live betting will probably make me either broke or rich on this card.

[poopoo333]

UFC 146 - SUB of the Night Winner
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12001 Frank Mir wins SUB of the Night		+700
6:30PM		12002 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-1500
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12003 Junior Dos Santos wins SUB of the Night		+1500
6:30PM		12004 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-4500
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12005 Antonio Silva wins SUB of the Night		+2700
6:30PM		12006 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-8900
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12007 Cain Velasquez wins SUB of the Night		+1800
6:30PM		12008 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-5400
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12009 Dave Herman wins SUB of the Night		+2000
6:30PM		12010 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-6000
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12011 Roy Nelson wins SUB of the Night		+1200
6:30PM		12012 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-2600
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12013 Shane Del Rosario wins SUB of the Night		+800
6:30PM		12014 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-1700
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12015 Stipe Miocic wins SUB of the Night		+3500
6:30PM		12016 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-13500
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12017 Lavar Johnson wins SUB of the Night		+4600
6:30PM		12018 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-17800
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12019 Stefan Struve wins SUB of the Night		+350
6:30PM		12020 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-530
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12021 Diego Brandao wins SUB of the Night		+700
6:30PM		12022 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-1500
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12023 Darren Elkins wins SUB of the Night		+1400
6:30PM		12024 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-3600
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12025 Jamie Varner wins SUB of the Night		+1500
6:30PM		12026 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-4500
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12027 Edson Barboza wins SUB of the Night		+2700
6:30PM		12028 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-8900
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12029 C.B. Dollaway wins SUB of the Night		+2800
6:30PM		12030 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-9600
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12031 Jason Miller wins SUB of the Night		+1100
6:30PM		12032 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-2300
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12033 Jacob Volkmann wins SUB of the Night		+2100
6:30PM		12034 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-6300
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12035 Paul Sass wins SUB of the Night		+550
6:30PM		12036 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-1050
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12037 Duane Ludwing wins SUB of the Night		+5000
6:30PM		12038 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-20000
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12039 Dan Hardy wins SUB of the Night		+3800
6:30PM		12040 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-14600
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12041 Kyle Kingsbury wins SUB of the Night		+3200
6:30PM		12042 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-11600
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12043 Glover Teixeira wins SUB of the Night		+2000
6:30PM		12044 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-6000
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12045 Daniel Pineda wins SUB of the Night		+2000
6:30PM		12046 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-6000
all 12 fights must occur for action
Sat 5/26		12047 Mike Brown wins SUB of the Night		+1700
6:30PM		12048 Not SUB of the Night Winner / no winner		-5100

[poopoo333]

At first I was real confident in Thee Bee, confident enough to lay around 3u if he was +140. Now after some thinking I will probably bet small on Thee Bee.

Don't let me talk you out of your bet. I just don't see CB stopping him, and Mayhem has taken down guys with better TD defense. Cb probably has the edge standing and he does have the takedown if he wants it.

It's not just you, but for some reason it never crossed my mind Mayhem would go for the TD on Thee Bee. CB is good, and a good wrestler, but he is no Jake Shields imo, and Mayhem was able to defend well against Shields. I guess we will see.

[poopoo333]

I've also been thinking of betting Struve.

Oh, wait. . . I just did.

If he loses, I'm blaming you, PP.

Did you not bet Struve straight up or something? Just in a parlay?

[SPX]

Did you not bet Struve straight up or something? Just in a parlay?

I distinctly remember betting that shit but my books have no record of it. That's not the first time that's happened, either.

[SPX]

Via Karen Bryant's Twitter: Dana says "some crazy shit happened backstage with Mayhem. He's done."

[SPX]

For those who didn't watch, Dana hinted that Brock may be coming back and that's why he was at the event tonight.

[poopoo333]

If Brock comes back, we will see Brock/Mir III.


After tonight, I have a feeling a lot of the main card fighters will be fighting each other..throw Mark Hunt in there too.

What matches do you guys think make sense? I am interested in Roy Nelson/Stipe Miocic. Not sure who Bigfoot will fight. I would have said Mir if this Brock business hadn't shown up.

Dana said when Cormier comes to the UFC, he will get a title shot.

[Vandelay]

Post event thoughts

JDS looked good. He was patient, threw solid combinations, swarmed when the opportunity presented itself, and was in no real danger at any point of the fight. His defense is still pretty questionable though. He didn't check leg kicks, got hit with some shots that looked pretty slow, and his tdd looked average. Would have loved to have seen the overeem fight.

Mir looked horrible. Ubermir is just too big. He was better when he was in the upper 240's. At this weight he is just too slow. I will be betting against him from now on as long as he gets decent opponents who arent close to retirement. Cormier, Barnett, Overeem, Hunt, Brock, Nog in a rematch would all probably beat him and do so easily (save for hunt). I would favor Big Foot and Werdum as well. Even the up and comers would probably beat him at this point. Stipe, Struve would be interesting, Browne would beat him.

Cain did what cain does. Set a relentless pace that Big Foot couldnt weather. The elbow was the beginning of the end. Rematch will be interesting. Doesnt look like he will ever incorporate subs into his game.

Big Foot. Damn his kryptonite is wrestlers he cant take down. He needs to stop accepting fights with guys out of aka. Should be interesting to see who he gets next. Still think he is a top 10 heavyweight.

Hermans horrible man. Cut down to 205.

Not much to say on nelson. Good win even though I felt the stoppage was early.

Cant tell if Stipe was impressive or Del Rosario is just that bad. Probably a bit of both. Not sure why he fucked around standing for a whole round.

Johnson had a nice run.

Glover is a future star man. As long as his beard doesnt fail him. Would like to see what his offensive wrestling and bjj off his back are like.

Barboza needs to work on his hands and defense more.

Miller and Dolloway should both be cut for that pathetic fight.

Hardy was getting lit up before his patented left hook landed. Not sure how opponents don't keep there right hand up for that punch at all times. Same with Nelson and his overhand.

Volkmanns grappling is overated.

[poopoo333]

Not sure I agree with your stuff about Mir, but I guess we will see. Would like to see him fight Barnett, Bigfoot, or Struve.

[poopoo333]

Also, I would like to see Lavar Johnson vs Dave Herman next.

And I am sure we will see Dan Hardy fight in Nottingham..I think in September. Would like to see him matched up with Sadollah.

[MMA_scientist]

Dont blame me, isaid cb by decision was the eay to go

[SPX]

Volkmanns grappling is overated.

Really? He won like 5 fights straight using almost nothing but his grappling.

[Vandelay]

Really? He won like 5 fights straight using almost nothing but his grappling.

and the first time he runs into a guy with good bjj and he gets tapped in a minute