UFC 148 Sonnen vs Silva II

[Ludo]

Silly is thinking that a gameplan that revolves around spamming a right jab/straight left combo for fifteen minutes is going to win him a fight regardless of what kind of cardio he has, whether he's sick or taking ten minutes to sit by a gatorade cooler between rounds, is going to win him a fight against Weidman.

[poopoo333]

So is Maia gonna lose to Kim? Or is he fighting Weidman now?

[Luke]

So is Maia gonna lose to Kim? Or is he fighting Weidman now?

I think he loses to both

[edman5555]

I wonder what happens to him with kim. I agree that his gameplan was silly Ludo. I just wonder if it had anything to do with him being in some kind of desperation mode because of his illness/cardio. I was dissappointed in him for his gameplan. That said, he would probably do something different the second time around if there was one, which there probably won't be.


Kim, maia. I don't know what happens there. I wonder what maia will be like at 170. I would think he would be invigorated because of the fresh new start but what is he hoping for long term??? GSP??? Good luck getting him down. Dong is pretty good but not overwhelmingly good. His standup plus takedown defense are solid but Maia might be able to get around those. One thing that pops in my head is Maia gassing and catching a big DHK stun gun punch in the later rounds. It could happen. That said, I'll take Maia at +odds. I still think he is really good.

[poopoo333]

Main card

• Middleweight Championship bout: Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen^[1]
• Bantamweight Championship bout: Dominick Cruz (c) vs. Urijah Faber^[1]
• Light Heavyweight bout: Forrest Griffin vs. Tito Ortiz^[1]
• Middleweight bout: Rich Franklin vs. Cung Le^[1]
• Welterweight bout: Demian Maia vs. Dong Hyun Kim^[1]

Preliminary card

• Bantamweight bout: Renan Barão vs. Ivan Menjivar^[1]
• Lightweight bout: Gleison Tibau vs. Khabib Nurmagomedov^[1]
• Middleweight bout: Constantinos Philippou vs. Riki Fukuda^[1]
• Lightweight bout: Melvin Guillard vs. Fabrício Camões^[1]

[poopoo333]

Tito should be the underdog to anybody in the LHW division, but +250? Come on son...2 split decisions in their last 2 fights. Tito was able to get Forrest down @ UFC 106 and bust him up a bit. Tito wants to go out on a win, Forrest just wants to stop fighting so it seems like.

[edman5555]

Tito should be the underdog to anybody in the LHW division, but +250? Come on son...2 split decisions in their last 2 fights. Tito was able to get Forrest down @ UFC 106 and bust him up a bit. Tito wants to go out on a win, Forrest just wants to stop fighting so it seems like.

Yeah I tend to agree with that. I think Tito can take this. He has done well against Forrest not counting his gasfest rounds. I think Tito should show up in shape for these. That said, I think he wins. Forrest doesn't have Ko power and Tito is tough to submit. Wrestling the remainder. Tito can definetly take this. Shitty line IMO. TITO OR NOTHING.

[Ludo]

I'm not quite sold on Tito's ability to win here but Forrest has talked about the reasons he got into the sport and how his life has pretty much become the opposite of what it was when he started fighting. Based purely on the odds I'd agree it's Tito or nothing here.

[sbjj]

I actually think Tito/Forrest should be close to even. maybe Tito @ +140 or so. if Tito actually shows up in shape I think it will be real close.

[sbjj]

I also think Le has value. Even though I hate him.

[SPX]

Le has value, I think. But I do figure Franklin will find a way to win.

As for Tito, I figure it will look like most other Tito fights, where he does pretty well in round one but then steadily declines after that. By the third, he'll be a punching bag, which is exactly what happened in Tito/Forrest II.

[edman5555]

I'm not quite sold on Tito's ability to win here but Forrest has talked about the reasons he got into the sport and how his life has pretty much become the opposite of what it was when he started fighting. Based purely on the odds I'd agree it's Tito or nothing here.

It depends on what Tito shows up. IF he is in shape, he can definetly win this fight. Who knows how he is doing physically though. He is a total oddball. He is also damaged as fuck physically. He has proven he has no problem showing up completely out of shape as well. Forrest on the other hand is well rounded and always in shape.

[SPX]

When in recent history has Tito shown up "in shape?" He gasses EVERY time . . . as long as he doesn't get stopped.

And don't say the Bader fight because it only lasted about 12 seconds.

[Luke]

Tito is always in shape,he's just old and his body can't take it any longer.

[edman5555]

Tito is always in shape,he's just old and his body can't take it any longer.

This is what i think, more or less. He has had so many injuries and surgeries that he can barely train anymore. His somewhat regular schedule as of late makes me wonder if his cardio might hold.