UFC on FX 3, June 8th

[poopoo333]

Dont think pap will be at a disadvantage on the ground.

Got home from the arena around 3:30 AM last night..had a pretty good time. The arena had TONS of empty seats. It kind of made me wish I bought the cheap seats and just walked down to the section I actually payed for which had some empty seats during the fights. The crowd was pretty fucking shitty as well, lots of pointless boos, and I was surrounded by "JUST BLEED!" guys. "Stop making love and fight!". "My six year old weighs as much as these guys!". Lots of people talking shit about main event as well, saying it was boring.

The preliminary fights were pretty underwhelming, not going to complain though. The only fight I found truly "sucked" was Henry Martinez/Bernardo Magalahes. Main card was exciting and crowd was going nuts for Jorgensen/Wineland. The Pyle KO of Neer was insane, Neer just faceplanted and it was pretty crazy to see.

As for betting:

Why the fuck did I not go bigger on Matt Grice? I am an idiot.

Glad I didn't bet bigger on Justin Salas like I was going to @+160, would have made my night worse.

Papazian ending up on bottom in full mount was not good at all off the trip/throw/whatever that was. That sucked for me.

I thought Henry Martinez would clearly beat Bernardo Malgahaes on the feet, really surprised it was fairly close. Glad he got the win though.

Scott Jorgensen is dumb...brb getting killed on the feet and now trying to wrestle. However, I think he would have lost anyways trying to wrestle, I overrated his TDs.

Motherfucking Charlie Brenneman. I was wrong. The quick separations when Brenneman was working for a TD across the cage cost me imo, but I'm not ruling out a Silva win in rounds 2 or 3. My standard bet on a good sized dog wrestler didn't come through last night.

Uncle Creepy just looked a little off last night, he didn't really try to get any takedowns in the midst of any exchanges like he did in the first fight. Instead he shot for takedowns which didn't work out as well for him. Mighty Mouse looked improved last night as well. If this fight didn't go the distance I'd probably be on suicide watch right now (ok not really)

[SPX]

Uncle Creepy just looked a little off last night, he didn't really try to get any takedowns in the midst of any exchanges like he did in the first fight.

I heard he had a bad weight cut and had to cut like 18 pounds in 24 hours. That probably had something to do with it.

[SPX]

Scientist, no post-event breakdown? What the fuck is wrong with you?

[Svino]

Speaking of awful judging, did anyone ever hear an explanation or retraction of that 30-27 score for Rocha?

[MMA_scientist]

Scientist, no post-event breakdown? What the fuck is wrong with you?

I didnt watch it.

[SPX]

I didnt watch it.

Well why not?

[MMA_scientist]

Well why not?

because I was out of town for a comp. Also, I was not very interested. I wanted to see Silva/Brenneman... and I was excited to see Rocha again, but nothing I really cared about. I don't care at all about 125 and I probably never will. They can't even scrape together 4 recognizable names to fight for the title, it will be all downhill after the Benevidez/MM fight.

[SPX]

I don't know why you think it will be downhill. I think now that flyweight is a division in the UFC then more and more fighters are going to start getting recognition and also more and more smaller guys are going to start training.

The featherweight division took a while to really build up, but it's pretty solid now. Give it time.

[MMA_scientist]

We'll see I guess. I actually think FW and BW kind of blow too tbh... I would rather just have Aldo at LW and scrap 145. the 125ers can stay at 135. I mean DJ and benevidez already fought for the title at 135, so I guess I don't really blame their failure on size.

[SPX]

145 is a lot stronger than 135, I think, so not sure why you'd want to scrap it. There's a lot more than Aldo at 145. Zombie, Hioki, Siver, Nunes, Koch, Poirier, Hominick, Roop and Palaszewski are all very solid. And outside of the UFC there's Curran and Sandro.

[MMA_scientist]

I think the good guys in that group can fight at 155. I really don't think that list is too solid though personally... they are good because FW is weak. A lot of them fought at 155, and it is not like they were undersized. Siver was pretty big at LW too... I don't know, I think too many classes just waters down the divisions too much. I get that we need to include the small guys, but I really don't think there is much difference between 125 and 135. Not enough to care about the classes individually for me.

[MMA_scientist]

International wrestling cuts out one of the weight classes by going from 145 to 163. I like that better... but they doo have 121 and 132, which seems redundant to me too. It goes 121, 132, 145, 163, 185, 211, 264.

I guess I just would rather see deep weightclasses with some guys being at a size disadvantage, rather than a bunch of shallow divisions just to make sure they are all the exact same size.

[Svino]

I think the UFC had the right idea with 5 weight classes. That's about the right number of divisions and champions for fans to keep track of.

They could easily expand the current weight classes a bit and get rid of one, if not two.

[SPX]

I think one problem is that lightweight is already SO deep that more fighters would just make it chaos and there would always be like 5 guys you could argue deserves a title shot.

[MMA_scientist]

I think one problem is that lightweight is already SO deep that more fighters would just make it chaos and there would always be like 5 guys you could argue deserves a title shot.

I don't think it is that deep... after Edgar and Diaz, there is no one just jumping out as a title challenger. Pettis I suppose. But if you had a bunch of other guys, they would fight each other and eliminate each other. Deep divisions is a problem that solves itself if the matches are made well.