UFC on Fuel 4

[edman5555]

Ive been looking at cariaso today too. He is a brown belt in bjj as is ferguson. The difference is cariaso is a very accomplished standup fighter. He has some muay thai titles and a golden gloves title in san francisco. Frankly i think he destroys ferguson.

[edman5555]

Cariaso also has a huge experince advantage when it comes to high level competition.

[edman5555]

I also think te huna will take out beltran. I think he will outwrestle him fairly easy and probably knock him out.

[edman5555]

Im going to take asuncao over timura as well. He has done really well against good competition of all kinds. Timura is very inexperienced and doesnt really have a win over someone i would consider high level.

[edman5555]

Atrain probably beats robertson unless he gasses and gets fonished. Pierce took robertson down multiple times before tkoing him. Pierce is really good though. Natal craig is hard to call, i think that can really go either way.

[trotterz]

Atrain probably beats robertson unless he gasses and gets fonished. Pierce took robertson down multiple times before tkoing him. Pierce is really good though. Natal craig is hard to call, i think that can really go either way.

I agree that Pierce is good, but IMO A-Train is a better wrestler than Pierce. So if Pierce could take robertson down multiple times, Simpsons shouldn't have any problem to do so also.

[poopoo333]

Ok yeah, Cariaso is going to win. Outgrappled Mizugaki. Kept it close on the feet and arguably beat Michael McDonald. etc etc.

[poopoo333]

Mark Munoz vs Chris Weidman - 5 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions
Wed 7/11		1003 Munoz/ Weidman goes 5 round distance		-175
10:15PM		1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance		+145
Wed 7/11		1005 Munoz wins inside distance		+375
10:15PM		1006 Not Munoz inside distance		-515
Wed 7/11		1007 Munoz wins by 5 round decision		+275
10:15PM		1008 Not Munoz by 5 round decision		-365
Wed 7/11		1009 Weidman wins inside distance		+335
10:15PM		1010 Not Weidman inside distance		-460
Wed 7/11		1011 Weidman wins by 5 round decision		+156
10:15PM		1012 Not Weidman by 5 round decision		-186
Wed 7/11		1013 Munoz/Weidman draw		+6000
10:15PM		1014 Fight not a draw		-15000
Joey Beltran vs James Te Huna - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions
Wed 7/11		1103 Beltran/Te Huna goes 3 round distance		+155
9:40PM		1104 Fight won't go 3 round distance		-185
Wed 7/11		1105 Beltran wins inside distance		+486
9:40PM		1106 Not Beltran inside distance		-857
Wed 7/11		1107 Beltran wins by 3 round decision		+620
9:40PM		1108 Not Beltran by 3 round decision		-1260
Wed 7/11		1109 Te Huna wins inside distance		-120
9:40PM		1110 Not Te Huna inside distance		-120
Wed 7/11		1111 Te Huna wins by 3 round decision		+234
9:40PM		1112 Not Te Huna by 3 round decision		-314
Wed 7/11		1113 Beltran/Te Huna draw		+8000
9:40PM		1114 Fight not a draw		-21500
Kenny Robertson vs Aaron Simpson - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions
Wed 7/11		1203 Robertson/Simpson goes 3 round distance		+150
9:15PM		1204 Fight won't go 3 round distance		-180
Wed 7/11		1205 Robertson wins inside distance		+471
9:15PM		1206 Not Robertson inside distance		-812
Wed 7/11		1207 Robertson wins by 3 round decision		+518
9:15PM		1208 Not Robertson by 3 round decision		-952
Wed 7/11		1209 Simpson wins inside distance		-115
9:15PM		1210 Not Simpson inside distance		-125
Wed 7/11		1211 Simpson wins by 3 round decision		+250
9:15PM		1212 Not Simpson by 3 round decision		-350
Wed 7/11		1213 Robertson/Simpson draw		+7500
9:15PM		1214 Fight not a draw		-20000
Karlos Vemola vs Francis Carmont - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions
Wed 7/11		1303 Vemola/Carmont goes 3 round distance		+115
8:50PM		1304 Fight won't go 3 round distance		-145
Wed 7/11		1305 Vemola wins inside distance		+332
8:50PM		1306 Not Vemola inside distance		-495
Wed 7/11		1307 Vemola wins by 3 round decision		+427
8:50PM		1308 Not Vemola by 3 round decision		-680
Wed 7/11		1309 Carmont wins inside distance		+150
8:50PM		1310 Not Carmont inside distance		-190
Wed 7/11		1311 Carmont wins by 3 round decision		+226
8:50PM		1312 Not Carmont by 3 round decision		-306
Wed 7/11		1313 Vemola/Carmont draw		+6500
8:50PM		1314 Fight not a draw		-16500
Vaughan Lee vs TJ Dillashaw - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions
Wed 7/11		1403 Lee/Dillashaw goes 3 round distance		-140
8:30PM		1404 Fight won't go 3 round distance		+110
Wed 7/11		1405 Lee wins inside distance		+540
8:30PM		1406 Not Lee inside distance		-1020
Wed 7/11		1407 Lee wins by 3 round decision		+630
8:30PM		1408 Not Lee by 3 round decision		-1290
Wed 7/11		1409 Dillashaw wins inside distance		+171
8:30PM		1410 Not Dillashaw inside distance		-232
Wed 7/11		1411 Dillashaw wins by 3 round decision		+100
8:30PM		1412 Not Dillashaw by 3 round decision		-140
Wed 7/11		1413 Lee/Dillashaw draw		+8000
8:30PM		1414 Fight not a draw		-21500
Anthony Njokuani vs Rafael Dos Anjos - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions
Wed 7/11		1503 Njokuani/Dos Anjos goes 3 round distance		+150
8:10PM		1504 Fight won't go 3 round distance		-180
Wed 7/11		1505 Njokuani wins inside distance		+289
8:10PM		1506 Not Njokuani inside distance		-409
Wed 7/11		1507 Njokuani wins by 3 round decision		+472
8:10PM		1508 Not Njokuani by 3 round decision		-815
Wed 7/11		1509 Dos Anjos wins inside distance		+130
8:10PM		1510 Not Dos Anjos inside distance		-170
Wed 7/11		1511 Dos Anjos wins by 3 round decision		+268
8:10PM		1512 Not Dos Anjos by 3 round decision		-388
Wed 7/11		1513 Njokuani/Dos Anjos draw		+6000
8:10PM		1514 Fight not a draw		-15000
Alex Caceres vs Damacio Page - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions
Wed 7/11		1603 Caceres/Pagegoes 3 round distance		-210
7:30PM		1604 Fight won't go 3 round distance		+160
Josh Ferguson vs Chris Cariaso - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions
Wed 7/11		1703 Ferguson/Cariaso goes 3 round distance		-245
7:00PM		1704 Fight won't go 3 round distance		+175
Rafael Natal vs Andrew Craig - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions
Wed 7/11		1803 Natal/Craig goes 3 round distance		-160
6:30PM		1804 Fight won't go 3 round distance		+120

[poopoo333]

I like Simpson/Robertson fight to go the distance @+150, Simpson by decision @+250, and Njokuani/RDA goes distance +150


thoughts?

[trotterz]

I like Carmont by Decision. Vemola is really really tuff, he has never been finished.

IMO, if Carmont wins, it will probably be by decision

[trotterz]

I like Simpson/Robertson fight to go the distance @+150, Simpson by decision @+250, and Njokuani/RDA goes distance +150


thoughts?

I would be a little scared with simson/robertson. If Pierce could knock Robertson out, than Simpson sure can too. He hits like a truck.

I do like the RDA/njokuani to go 3rnd tought

[poopoo333]

I like Carmont by Decision. Vemola is really really tuff, he has never been finished.

IMO, if Carmont wins, it will probably be by decision

I do not feel comfortable with that mainly because Vemola has conditioning issues. Ronny Markes was on top not doing anything in their fight while Vemola was completely tired. Carmont tends to advance position, go for subs, and actually do some ground and pound from the top...so with a potentially gasses Vemola on his back..I can see him being finished.

[edman5555]

Does carmont have the wrestling to wear vemola out?

[MMA_scientist]

I agree that Pierce is good, but IMO A-Train is a better wrestler than Pierce. So if Pierce could take robertson down multiple times, Simpsons shouldn't have any problem to do so also.

I think Simpson is going to want to keep it standing, Robertson will want to go down to the floor and try to use his submissions

[MMA_scientist]

Ok yeah, Cariaso is going to win. Outgrappled Mizugaki. Kept it close on the feet and arguably beat Michael McDonald. etc etc.

I have been watching Cariaso ever since I lost my bet on Rafaelo Rebello to beat him. I really thought he would get subbed there, and he obviously didn't.