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  • Ludo
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 4931

    #31
    Originally posted by poopoo333
    Ludo, why Roller?
    I don't think Volkman can take him down, and I think Shane has at least the power striking edge.
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    • Ludo
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 4931

      #32
      Originally posted by SPX
      And why Pierce? I favor him to beat Simpson.
      I just don't think Pierce can make it as ugly as he needs to with a much bigger Simpson who's also got a good right hand.
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      • SPX
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 23875

        #33
        I actually think Pierce is the better striker and the wrestling should cancel out.
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        • poopoo333
          MMA *********
          • Jan 2010
          • 18302

          #34
          I think Volkmann will be able to get Roller down....guess we just have differing opinions. I am going to actually look at this card and watch vids and stuff unlike I did for today's card.

          Without looking at this card:

          I think Browne will be too athletic and too quick for Silva. However, I am not ruling Silva out at all. I actually believe I am overrating Browne right now and underrating Silva. I have to watch their fights to make a conclusion on how their styles actually match up together.

          Castillo might be able to get Johnson down and win a decision..but Johnson has actually looked much improved (that makes one of the blackzilians)

          Pierce/Simpson....going to be a snoozer. I give the edge to Mike Pierce.

          Hallman +200 looks good to me. Dat dere wrestler value.

          Justin Edwards to beat Neer at + odds...Dat dere wrestler value.

          That's all. I am going to start watching film from the prelims up tomorrow

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          • mike
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 541

            #35
            i think Jeremy Stephens will KO Yves Edwards. Edwards is a pretty good striker but his chin is pretty bad now.

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            • SPX
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 23875

              #36
              I think that fight's hard to call. Stephens can KO anyone, but I don't know if he's technical enough to win a decision.
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              • edman5555
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 6628

                #37
                Mike pierce is pretty good, so is simpson. I would think this one is super close. That's a good point about simpson being bigger. I do wonder if he will tire faster because of that though.
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                • Ludo
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 4931

                  #38
                  Originally posted by edman5555
                  Mike pierce is pretty good, so is simpson. I would think this one is super close. That's a good point about simpson being bigger. I do wonder if he will tire faster because of that though.
                  It would depend on Simpson's cut to 170(which so far hasn't looked too bad). He used to be able to go 3 rounds with alot of clinching and wrestling at 185 so assuming he doesn't kill himself making 170, and it doesn't appear he does, he should have to stamina to do his thing for 3 rounds with Pierce.
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                  • poopoo333
                    MMA *********
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 18302

                    #39
                    Really hoping for a close line on Volkmann...going to bet him for sure unless he is -200 or some shit

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                    • SPX
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 23875

                      #40
                      • Travis Browne vs. Antonio Silva
                      • Jake Ellenberger vs. Jay Hieron
                      • John Dodson vs. Jussier Formiga
                      • Josh Neer vs. Justin Edwards - ?
                      • Yves Edwards vs. Jeremy Stephens - ?
                      • Danny Castillo vs. Michael Johnson
                      • Dennis Hallman vs. Thiago Tavares
                      • Shane Roller vs. Jacob Volkmann
                      • Diego Nunes vs. Bart Palaszewski - ?
                      • Phil Harris vs. Darren Uyenoyama - ?
                      • Mike Pierce vs. Aaron Simpson
                      • Marcus LeVesseur vs. Carlo Prater - ?

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                      • poopoo333
                        MMA *********
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 18302

                        #41
                        • Travis Browne vs. Antonio Silva
                        • Jake Ellenberger vs. Jay Hieron
                        • John Dodson vs. Jussier Formiga -just a lean..need to really look at this
                        • Josh Neer vs. Justin Edwards
                        • Yves Edwards vs. Jeremy Stephens -fairly slight lean..would like to bet a possible decision prop
                        • Danny Castillo vs. Michael Johnson-another slight lean
                        • Dennis Hallman vs. Thiago Tavares
                        • Shane Roller vs. Jacob Volkmann
                        • Diego Nunes vs. Bart Palaszewski- gotta look at it
                        • Phil Harris vs. Darren Uyenoyama
                        • Mike Pierce vs. Aaron Simpson- this is going to be a -115/-115 type of deal...coin flip fight, very hard to call. decision prop..but it will be -300 or worse
                        • Marcus LeVesseur vs. Carlo Prater- wut

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                        • poopoo333
                          MMA *********
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 18302

                          #42
                          For the record, I originally picked Browne to win and still think he probably wins...but starting to lean Bigfoot at current odds. I have a strong feeling I am overrating Browne and underrating Silva

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                          • SPX
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 23875

                            #43
                            Maybe I think Bigfoot's better than he is, but I always go back to his fight with Werdum and his win over Fedor.

                            I mean shit, if he can beat Fedor, surely he can beat Travis Browne. Right?
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                            • poopoo333
                              MMA *********
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 18302

                              #44
                              I think the fight gets real interesting if Browne does not hurt Silva early. Browne has showed conditioning issues in the past (Kongo fight, Broughton fight). I also think that Kongo was able to clinch up with Browne and actually win the fight if there was no point deduction. Silva is a much bigger guy than Kongo and if he implements the same game plan I think he might possibly be able to make it look similar to the Arlovski fight. I will definitely be betting Silva +200...not sure which way the line is moving though.

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                              • SPX
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 23875

                                #45
                                I wish Sportsbook would go ahead and open the line up. I'd probably even bet Bigfoot at +150.
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