UFC 155

[edman5555]

Odds came out today for a lot of fights.

I saw a picture of Leben and I have been doing some reading about him. It sounds like he is doing really well and training very hard. I don't know who wins this but I tend to think Leben finds the chin at some point. He is at -165 right now. Not a bad price. Might take it.

I don't know about Lauzon/Miller. I don't really remember the lauzon varner fight but I know it was pretty close until Lauzon won. No idea.

Boetsche/Phillipou: I like Boetsche as a dog. I would be a little worried that he won't be able to get Phillipou down. I think Phil is good but don't super dangerous on the feet because he is always defending the takedown. He IS a great boxer but his lack of a ground game kinda limits him there. If there is a lack, which i think there is. Tim will definetly be the best wrestler he has fought so far.

I am split on Belcher/Okami. Anyone can win that. I guess I would have to go back and look at Belchers takedown defense. Even then I don't know. Okami is pretty crafty. He is an above average wrestler. It wasn't that long ago that Belcher was dropping a decision to Akiyama. Not that Akiyama is horrible or anything. I guess Akiyama isn't as bad as his 4 straight losses look. He was doing well in a lot of those fights. Whatever, too close to call.

Cain/Junior: Also too close to call. I have no idea.

[MMA_scientist]

I got JDS, Miller, Belcher, and Boetch. I may bet Philiipou with the right odds, I think Miller is the safest bet of those. Better wrestler, better bjj, better boxer, way better gas tank.

Belcher/Okami is interesting... Belcher should have the striking edge and his grappling has obviously gotten pretty good, but definitely not good enough to sub Okami who has great defensive grappling and base.

Leben is always the "new Leben." I don't believe any of that talk, but if I had to guess, I think Leben will win, as he has just proven to be a better fighter so far. I do think that when Leben starts his decline it is going to be sharp, Chuck Liddell-like. He is not very fast and swings big ol hooks while getting hit a lot, at some point he is going to start getting dropped by every punch.

[edman5555]

Thats a good point about lebens chin. He was called the new leben after he subbed akiyama iirc. He was doing really well until that effed up fight with stann. He was supposedly vomiting before the fight. I beleive it. He was popped for pain killers and gassed in the munoz fight iirc.

http://www.mmamania.com/2012/9/25/3409058/crippled-no-more-chris-leben-interview-exclusive-with-mmamania-com-pt

Heres the article where leben talks about his weight and health. It sounds like he is doing well. Doesnt mean he will win but i would think there wont be any fuck ups like before.

[edman5555]

I feel the same way about miller, my only concern is j lau being dangerous. He is very dangerous. I dont think belcher subbing okami is somethinng to think about, it is who can win the wrestling game.

[poopoo333]

I think Lauzon wins. No breakdown. He wins.

[edman5555]

Thanks for the info.

[SPX]

JDS
Belcher
Miller
Leben
Wineland
Guillard (I hope)

No clue on Boetsch/Phillipou.

[edman5555]

JDS
Belcher
Miller
Leben
Wineland
Guillard (I hope)

No clue on Boetsch/Phillipou.

This is a tough card to bet. A lot of close fights.

[SPX]

Leben is always the "new Leben." I don't believe any of that talk, but if I had to guess, I think Leben will win, as he has just proven to be a better fighter so far. I do think that when Leben starts his decline it is going to be sharp, Chuck Liddell-like. He is not very fast and swings big ol hooks while getting hit a lot, at some point he is going to start getting dropped by every punch.

Well I think that Leben HAS had a resurgence. A lot of people were talking about him possibly getting cut if he lost another one after the Rosholt fight, which he looked totally shitty in, but then he racked up 3 straight wins--two of which were against solid comp-- and is 4-2 in his last 6. You have to give credit to him for that.

It's not like some fighters who say they're finally taking their shit seriously and then just keep on losing.

[SPX]

This is a tough card to bet. A lot of close fights.

Yeah. At the current odds, I'd probably actually bet Cain. That's a really hard one to call.

Belcher I'll take as any sort of dog. If Miller stays around -200 I'll probably bet him as well.

I don't like Leben's odds but if they come down a bit I'll probably take him.

And I like Wineland as a dog.

[poopoo333]

I love Wineland at + money here

[edman5555]

video of todd duffees last fight. He is fucking fast for a 260 pound heavyweight,

http://mmashare.mmavideoforum.com/serious-mma-videos-f35/new-todd-duffee-interview-t61586.html

[edman5555]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f8yZmIx9_o

Here is the video. Sorry.

[edman5555]

I wonder if Duffee comes in at reasonable odds and if his line blows up.

[Svino]

I really like Miller over Lauzon, but the line is starting to suck. He's down to -260 and it still hasn't opened on BM.