UFC 155

[edman5555]

I am thinking about taking Holloway because I think he will demolish Garcia standing, my only concern is his ground game. Leonard hasn't done anything on the ground that I can remember but he is listed as a brown belt.

[poopoo333]

I expect Hollaway to be around -450 so I would like to parlay him. I might put him with some magic not props. Like not jds by sub, not belcher by sub

[edman5555]

I expect Hollaway to be around -450 so I would like to parlay him. I might put him with some magic not props. Like not jds by sub, not belcher by sub

I don't really expect Holloway to be that big a favorite. Hes pretty good but his ground game is weak. I guess most people might not now that he is a white belt in BJJ. At least that was what I read about him before the Dustin Poireir fight. His standup is good though, and his takedown defense was good in the Schilling fight. I was thinking Holloway might come in around -200 or so.

Looking back, Garcia isn't really that bad. He makes fights somewhat close on the judges scorecards in anything that is a striking battle. Holloway should be a striking battle. Holloway has a big reach advantage though. I imagine his technique is much crisper as well. Everyones technique is much crisper than Garcia.

[poopoo333]

If Holloway is -200 I will put a grand on him because I am a crazy motherfucker

[Ludo]

I don't really think Brunson gets it done here. Leben has always been tough to get to the ground and even took Munoz down a few times last year. The layoff may hurt Leben though and he might gas the hell out if this fight lasts more than a few minutes.

[SPX]

Well i just looked at jurys record and he has pretty much fought cans exclusively before the ultimate fighter. Michael johnson has beaten a few good guys and is training with the blackzilians now. At first glance -300 looks like a gift.

I saw Jury fight once or twice on the show and I was not impressed. He was a big favorite in at least one of those fights and lost pretty convincingly.

I don't really like the line, but Johnson has been looking good lately. If he stays at -300 or better I might take the leap on him.

[SPX]

I am thinking about taking Holloway because I think he will demolish Garcia standing, my only concern is his ground game. Leonard hasn't done anything on the ground that I can remember but he is listed as a brown belt.

I would be VERY surprised if Holloway lost. This is a terrible matchup for Garcia.

You can forget about Garcia's ground abilities. It's not that he doesn't have any, but he basically only uses them defensively. It's very unlikely that he even tries to get this fight to the ground, and if he does, I doubt he succeeds.

I'd love to get Holloway at -300 or better. That would be an automatic play.

[SPX]

Fight starts about 4:20. . .

[edman5555]

If Holloway is -200 I will put a grand on him because I am a crazy motherfucker

I can see where you are going with that but a grand is a lot. Be careful, slow and steady wins the race.

Also, why are you feeling so confident in Lentz? He leaned on Winner for the decison, almost literally. He had a very close fight with Tyson griffin, losing in a lot of peoples eyes. He lost the first two rounds to Waylon Lowe before choking him out. He got the crap kicked out of him by Oliviera. Then he lost to Bocek and Dunham. Granted he did ok in some of those fights and they are at 155 pounds but why do you feel like he beats Nunes? I feel like it could be close but I also think that Nunes style might be really hard for him. He has pretty good takedown defense, not amazing..but he moves around really well and has good striking. I could see Lentz having a lot of trouble tracking him down to make this fight an up close gritty contest. Those are the type of fights he wins. I think he loses rangy fights like Nunes would probably like to impose here.

[edman5555]

Wrong thread. Sorry/

[SPX]

Johnson's line is getting better. If he opens at Sportsbook at -200ish, I will DEFINITELY be taking him.

[poopoo333]

Johnson's line is getting better. If he opens at Sportsbook at -200ish, I will DEFINITELY be taking him.

Oh, I forgot to tell you. Fuck Sportsbook. I deposited $400 there and put it on Yves Edwards over Jeremy Stephens. I got it up to like $983 or some shit and requested a payout on December 8th...shit is still pending. The first payout I ever got from there over summer was processed in like one day.

[SPX]

Yeah, well they tell you explicitly that it can take 6 to 8 weeks to process. The guy who got me to sign up there told me a while back that it usually takes about 6 weeks for his checks to arrive. I think you got lucky the first time.

[Vandelay]

Holloway is around -300

[edman5555]

Poopoo you were right about the Holloway line.