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  • poopoo333
    MMA *********
    • Jan 2010
    • 18302

    I really think Edgar wins. I may be feeling pretty damn dumb once the fight is over but I am not going to go against what I think. I have 2u on Edgar by decision @ +385. I will be putting another 2u on him straight, but I am waiting to see where the line goes. +200 is a great line for me, but I can see it getting to around +230.

    Rashad Evans will probably have the edge on Lil Nog on the feet and will definitely have the wrestling advantage. Joe Silva does not like to give Lil Nog favorable match ups (well except Tito). Evans' line is too steep to bet straight but I may throw him in a parlay (with Volkmann).

    I have a small bet on Bigfoot Silva over Ubereem. Ubereem SHOULD win. He should be able to stuff any takedowns and outstrike Bigfoot. However, if they spend time working against the fence and it gets to round 2, the tempo of this fight could change and go in Bigfoot's favor. I strongly feel that Ubereem's cardio/conditioning is not good at all. Also, a 1+ year layoff as well as potentially not being on his full dosages of whatever he takes due to his random drug testing throughout the year may have an effect on him. Who knows how hard he has really been training in his time off? For all we know, he could have been going through the motions in training and going out and partying all the time (he lives in Miami and is a star) during his suspension. Basically, Bigfoot +300 or better is worth a bet for me because I don't trust Ubereem in this spot.

    I have 2u on Maia over Fitch at +150. I think this is a very close fight, but Fitch has a tendency to get put in some bad positions on the mat when he is pressured in the grappling department. He has not showed the best TDD. See the Penn fight (well round 1 before Penn gassed). See the Diego Sanchez fight. I don't think Maia finishes Fitch, but I can see him getting the more dominant positions in this fight for at least 2 out of 3 rounds. I am not super confident but I like the match up here.

    Benavidez should win against McCall but it will be closer than the line indicates. Benavidez should definitely have the advantage on the feet but it won't surprise me if he ends up on his back a couple times in the fight which may sway the judges. On the contrary, McCall will probably end up on his back too. Tough to call, but I am picking Benavidez but I won't bet him at the current line.

    Dunham/Tibau is a very interesting fight and it's hard to have a good read on. I am picking Dunham but I won't be surprised to see Tibau do his thing with his wrestling which has been a weakness of Dunham in the past. I do think that Dunham will be able to end up on top and will be the better striker. If this fight has a guy +150 or better, that'll be my bet. However, I think it should be a -120/-110 type of line in favor of Tibau based on the style match up.

    I am going to be betting Hieron over Woodley if his line is good (around +160 or better or whatever). He has solid TDD, probably better cardio, and should be able to hang on the feet. I think if Hieron gave Askren such problems in Bellator, he will be able to keep it close against Woodley. Really curious to see the line here.

    Volkmann is going to steamroll Greene. This is self explanatory. He should be like -600.

    Yves Edwards will probably squeak out a win against Vallie-Flagg. He is the better striker imo, and he shouldn't have any significant problems in the grappling department. I don't think Vallie-Flagg is a bad fighter, it's just hard to read him when he hasn't fought any top competition. I would like to watch Flagg vs Calvacante though. Someone post a video.


    Chico Camus vs Dustin Kimura. Dustin will win via kimura. ok for real, who are these guys?

    Figueroa vs Rivera is going to be a very entertaining feet that should take place on the feet. I think Rivera is the overall better striker/fighter, but he tends to slow down after round 1 which is a concern. I am picking Rivera to win but with his cardio issues I can't really put that much confidence in him.





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    • edman5555
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 6628

      The only thing about green that makes me worry is him catching volkmann with a punch and tkoing him.

      I think overeem is a terrible matchup for bigfoot. The layoff does concern me though.

      I dont want to touch benavidez mccall. Mccall could outwrestle him. He could get subbed trying. He could get outpointed. Too many possibilities imo.

      I get where your coming from with the heiron bet but woodley has an uncanny ability to push someone up against the wall for fove minutes straight. I could see him doing that here.

      I will probably be on maia. I like him at 170 but it is still fitch. He is a great grappler himself and a very experienced fighter.

      I like rashad but i dont want to underestimate little nog. He is very good. I think he could have the edge in the standup though pp. that is where i disagree with you. He is a champion boxer.

      Tibau dunham. On the fence here. Originally i liked tibau but i am now somewhat hesitant to bet him. I am not a hundred percent convinced he can or will come to try and impose his size. Dunham is a solid grappler himself.

      Edgar aldo i dont want to touch. Edgar by decision at plus 385 is pretty enticing though. Straight up i will pass because they both can win this one.
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      • Mr. IWS
        215 Hustler
        • Sep 2006
        • 98673

        I loved Overeem when the matchup was first announced but after I broke the fight down, Im laying off it. Big foot might very well make this an ugly fight and pull it out, Reem never shows me the heart in MMA to pull through when he hits some adversity.
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        • edman5555
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 6628

          Originally posted by Mr. IWS
          I loved Overeem when the matchup was first announced but after I broke the fight down, Im laying off it. Big foot might very well make this an ugly fight and pull it out, Reem never shows me the heart in MMA to pull through when he hits some adversity.
          He hasnt lost since 2007.
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          • Mr. IWS
            215 Hustler
            • Sep 2006
            • 98673

            Originally posted by edman5555
            He hasnt lost since 2007.
            I wasnt aware of that.

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            • poopoo333
              MMA *********
              • Jan 2010
              • 18302

              Originally posted by edman5555
              He hasnt lost since 2007.
              So? He has fought cans except Brock and Werdum. He hasn't had to face much adversity. He did against Werdum. What happened? He basically ran backwards when Werdum pressured him standing and gassed horribly

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              • Luke
                10 year vet
                • Oct 2006
                • 30060

                Reem was able to fend off anything Werdum had (TD's , wall-n-stall, etc. ) so I have no doubt he can do it to Bighead
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                • Mr. IWS
                  215 Hustler
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 98673

                  Dont get me wrong, Im a huge Reem nuthugger, but hes been pretty much a can crusher save for Werdum over the last 5 or 6 years. Im afraid if he doesnt get Bigfoot out of there early, or doesnt have immediate success, I can see Bigfoot grinding him down. Silva aint one of these guys thats gonna go away after he gets rocked.

                  Just too many variables for me with Reem:

                  Layoff?
                  Still on roids?
                  Different roids?

                  I aint fuckin with it, but Ill root for him cause im mirin is aesthetics.
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                  • poopoo333
                    MMA *********
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 18302

                    Money will come in on Reem this week so Bigfoot's line will get better...I think I am going to put more on him. But I am with Zak, I am a Reem nuthugger because I 'mire dem aesthetics.

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                    • Mr. IWS
                      215 Hustler
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 98673

                      Originally posted by poopoo333
                      But I am with Zak, I am a Reem nuthugger because I 'mire dem aesthetics.
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                      • edman5555
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 6628

                        He hasnt been facing complete and total cans. He beat Paul Buentello, Mark Hunt, Cro cop, Brett Rogers, Todd Duffee, Werdum, and Brock Lesnar. That was a good point you made about him gassing in the werdum fight. I forgot about that. He was also very tentative on the feet but that could of been because he was afraid to get taken down. Having Werdum on top of you is bad for any heavyweight.

                        Werdum is really good by the way. He has worked on his striking a lot since losing to Junior Dos Santos.
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                        • poopoo333
                          MMA *********
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 18302

                          Yeah, I really like Werdum now. He is going to make Big Nog look silly in June.

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                          • edman5555
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 6628

                            I'd love to see a Werdum Dos Santos rematch.
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                            • mike
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 541

                              i am clueless on this card as far as betting goes, esp on the main card. I'm just gonna research the guys on the prelims, see if i can find any value there.

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                              • mike
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 541


                                here's the vallie-flagg vs cavalcante fight, if anyone wanna take a look.

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