UFC on FX 7 Vitor Belfort vs Michael Bisping

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  • MMA_scientist
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 9857

    #16
    Well, I think he is going to get his fuckin ass whipped. So, fuck you.
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    • SPX
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 23875

      #17
      I could see that, too. But I do not think Vitor should be a big favorite here.
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      • Svino
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 3873

        #18
        I could definitely see wrestler-Bisping beating Vitor.

        I can't imagine the guy I just saw fight Brian Stann beating Vitor on the feet though. Not even over 3 rounds; I think Vitor has underrated cardio.

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        • SPX
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 23875

          #19
          Since when is Brian Stann a bad fighter, though?
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          • MMA_scientist
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 9857

            #20
            Stann is 2nd tier at best, and even then, he only does well against other strikers. Bisping gets dropped all the time (Wand, Rivera, Stann?, Hendo, Kang)... I think Vitor will find his chin and then swarm him. I would say Vitor is the best striker Bisping has faced of that group.

            I fully expect Bisping to come to grapple.
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            • SPX
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              • Aug 2009
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              #21
              I wouldn't quite call Stann an A-level fighter but to call him "second tier at best" doesn't do him justice. He's pretty damn good, he's just not great.
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              • edman5555
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 6628

                #22
                Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                Stann is 2nd tier at best, and even then, he only does well against other strikers. Bisping gets dropped all the time (Wand, Rivera, Stann?, Hendo, Kang)... I think Vitor will find his chin and then swarm him. I would say Vitor is the best striker Bisping has faced of that group.

                I fully expect Bisping to come to grapple.
                Vitor almost armbarred Jones. Supposedly he heard his arm pop. He also handled Anthony Johnson really well on the mat. Bispings BJJ is supposedly pretty good though. How many rounds is this?
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                • MMA_scientist
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 9857

                  #23
                  Originally posted by SPX
                  I wouldn't quite call Stann an A-level fighter but to call him "second tier at best" doesn't do him justice. He's pretty damn good, he's just not great.
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                  • MMA_scientist
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                    • Nov 2009
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by edman5555
                    Vitor almost armbarred Jones. Supposedly he heard his arm pop. He also handled Anthony Johnson really well on the mat. Bispings BJJ is supposedly pretty good though. How many rounds is this?
                    Yeah, traditionally Vitor handles wrestlers pretty well. Bisping would get beat in a grappling only affair, but he stays pretty active with his punches from top. He is a non-stop gnp machine.
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                    • poopoo333
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                      • Jan 2010
                      • 18302

                      #25
                      Originally posted by edman5555
                      Vitor almost armbarred Jones. Supposedly he heard his arm pop. He also handled Anthony Johnson really well on the mat. Bispings BJJ is supposedly pretty good though. How many rounds is this?
                      Jones has a hurt elbow still. And he handled AJ on the mat after AJ gassed miserably after almost dying (again) cutting too much weight/still not making weight. AJ was getting him down easy before he went into cardiac arrest. This will probably be 5 rounds.

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                      • SPX
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 23875

                        #26
                        I agree, Vitor actually did NOT look good against AJ until AJ gassed. In fact, I was a little concerned for my bet. Props to the ref for those instantaneous standups.
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                        • edman5555
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 6628

                          #27
                          Ok I didn't remember how bad he gassed. That said, AJ is a better wrestler than Bisping...That said, who knows if Bisping can get him down. I tend to think he can.
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                          • Svino
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 3873

                            #28
                            As much as I like Vitor, I would say that his TDD is outright bad. Not only that, but he tends to play bjj off his back instead of trying to get back to his feet ASAP. That was how they did it in the old days, but it's not the smart strategy in modern MMA anymore.

                            His offensive wrestling is probably underrated, but I don't see him getting anything going against Bisping in that regard.

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                            • edman5555
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 6628

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Svino
                              As much as I like Vitor, I would say that his TDD is outright bad. Not only that, but he tends to play bjj off his back instead of trying to get back to his feet ASAP. That was how they did it in the old days, but it's not the smart strategy in modern MMA anymore.

                              His offensive wrestling is probably underrated, but I don't see him getting anything going against Bisping in that regard.
                              Why do you say it is bad? What fights? The AJ fight or are there other fights you have seen?
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                              • Svino
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 3873

                                #30
                                Originally posted by edman5555
                                Why do you say it is bad? What fights? The AJ fight or are there other fights you have seen?
                                Historically, he has had trouble with wrestlers: Hendo, Ortiz, Couture. He blew away Lindland, but the speed difference there was way too much for an aging Lindland to overcome.

                                FM has his career TD defense at 49% which is not good for a guy of his level who is at his best when standing.

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