UFC on FX 7 Vitor Belfort vs Michael Bisping

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  • poopoo333
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    • Jan 2010
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    #46
    Originally posted by edman5555
    I get it. He is a pushy wrestler coming down in weight that has done well so far at 145 that will probably be a dog.
    Pretty much this.

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    • poopoo333
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      • Jan 2010
      • 18302

      #47
      edman, I watched Nunes vs Florian last night and it made me like Lentz even more in this fight. Nunes has a poor gas tank and was taken down and controlled by Florian for a good portion of their fight. I can see Nunes stuffing Lentz in round 1 and taking it, but if Lentz brings the pressure in round 1 and forces Nunes to grapple a little bit, I believe Lentz will be a bit more successful in the 2nd part of the fight.

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      • poopoo333
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        • Jan 2010
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        #48
        Michael Bisping vs Vitor Belfort - 5 rounds - UFC on FX 7 propositions
        Sat 1/19 1003 Bisping/Belfort goes 5 round distance +170
        11:30PM 1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance -230
        Sat 1/19 1005 Bisping wins inside distance +229
        11:30PM 1006 Not Bisping inside distance -309
        Sat 1/19 1007 Bisping wins by 5 round decision +340
        11:30PM 1008 Not Bisping by 5 round decision -510
        Sat 1/19 1009 Belfort wins inside distance +133
        11:30PM 1010 Not Belfort inside distance -173
        Sat 1/19 1011 Belfort wins by 5 round decision +470
        11:30PM 1012 Not Belfort by 5 round decision -810
        Sat 1/19 1013 Bisping/Belfort draw +7000
        11:30PM 1014 Fight not a draw -18500

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        • edman5555
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 6628

          #49
          Originally posted by poopoo333
          edman, I watched Nunes vs Florian last night and it made me like Lentz even more in this fight. Nunes has a poor gas tank and was taken down and controlled by Florian for a good portion of their fight. I can see Nunes stuffing Lentz in round 1 and taking it, but if Lentz brings the pressure in round 1 and forces Nunes to grapple a little bit, I believe Lentz will be a bit more successful in the 2nd part of the fight.
          A poor gas tank could definetly hurt him against Lentz. Lentz is tough as nails as well. He can keep it close quarters where he excels by using his wrestling. The thing about Nunes is he seems to have good footwork IIRC. That is the only thing that makes me worry about him VS Lentz. If Lentz cant keep it in close he could be in a little bit of trouble. I think whichever way it goes it will be really close. I would be suprised to see either guy win 3 rounds. Lentz could be a decent dog bet though. He should be much improved over his 155 performances given the decrease in his opponents size. Another thing to keep in mind about florian is his striking is pretty good. He uses that to get inside. He held Aldo against the cage for a round in their fight as well.

          Id think it would be worthwhile to look at some of his recent fights to see how his cardio is. If he gassed in the Florian fight it could be something he looked to improve on. That said, Lentz is a grinder that can obviously push him. I can't really decide on this one, I guess it will depend on the line. I bet it goes the distance.
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          • poopoo333
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            • Jan 2010
            • 18302

            #50
            What are your guys thoughts on Gonzaga vs Rothwell? Pretty tough fight to call imo

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            • edman5555
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 6628

              #51
              Yeah it is. Id be worried about gonzaga slapping on a submission, i think rothwell is more well rounded though.
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              • poopoo333
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                • Jan 2010
                • 18302

                #52
                Dana White confirms if Michael Bisping wins at UFC on FX 7, he will get the next shot at Anderson Silva
                ....

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                • Mr. IWS
                  215 Hustler
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 99907

                  #53
                  Will bet poopoo's 2012 MMA winnings on Anderson.
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                  • edman5555
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 6628

                    #54
                    Originally posted by poopoo333
                    Michael Bisping vs Vitor Belfort - 5 rounds - UFC on FX 7 propositions
                    Sat 1/19 1003 Bisping/Belfort goes 5 round distance +170
                    11:30PM 1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance -230
                    Sat 1/19 1005 Bisping wins inside distance +229
                    11:30PM 1006 Not Bisping inside distance -309
                    Sat 1/19 1007 Bisping wins by 5 round decision +340
                    11:30PM 1008 Not Bisping by 5 round decision -510
                    Sat 1/19 1009 Belfort wins inside distance +133
                    11:30PM 1010 Not Belfort inside distance -173
                    Sat 1/19 1011 Belfort wins by 5 round decision +470
                    11:30PM 1012 Not Belfort by 5 round decision -810
                    Sat 1/19 1013 Bisping/Belfort draw +7000
                    11:30PM 1014 Fight not a draw -18500
                    Belfort bulked up for the Jon Jones fight didn't he? I'd look for the video but it probably isn't there. I remember Jones saying that they acutally changed their gameplan in the backroom before the fight because Vitor looked so big at the weigh ins. This could cause some problems for Vitor during the fight. The fight was in September, I don't see how Vitor could cut down on his muscle mass by then, at least not in a significant way. If I am right about that then it would make sense that me could have a rough cut to 185. He's made it before, but Bisping is a bit of a grinder and this is 5 rounds. I could see Bisping taking over with his wrestling later on in the fight against a tired Vitor. I don't see Bisping subbing him or knocking him out though.

                    On the other hand, Belfort has some big power and speed in his hands. I guess it goes without saying but I'll say it anyways. That has always been Bispings problem. He gets rocked in almost every fight and Vitor is a finisher.

                    I guess I lean Vitor but I'm not really sure. How do you guys see the wrestling playing out?
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                    • poopoo333
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                      • Jan 2010
                      • 18302

                      #55
                      I think Bisping survives the 1st round and a half and takes over with active striking, clinch work, wrestling. I am very confident in the Brit here.

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                      • edman5555
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 6628

                        #56
                        Also, what do you guys think of Ronny Markes Vs Andrew Craig?

                        Markes has shown some fantastic wrestling against Atrain and Vemola. Craig is undefeated and a brown belt in jiu jitsu. He beat Noke but Noke was injured during the fight. Craig was also getting beat by Natal until he had that come from behind head kick. I guess I like Markes to win this one.

                        Makres ufc profile states he is the Natal state Jiu-Jitsu champion and vice Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu champion. Whatever that means, hes the Al Gore of Jiu jitsu. He is also a brown belt in BJJ under Jair Lourenco of Nova Uniao.

                        Craig has one submission win and one ko outside of Natal. That guy he knocked out had 2 fights under his belt at the time. I am leaning towards Markes. His line will probably be ridiculous.
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                        • edman5555
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 6628

                          #57
                          Originally posted by poopoo333
                          I think Bisping survives the 1st round and a half and takes over with active striking, clinch work, wrestling. I am very confident in the Brit here.
                          Really? I guess I can see why. One thing I will say about Vitor is that you can make an argument for him being overrated. He does perform well during fights, (ko'ing rich and Akiyama, tapping out AJ) but aside from them most of the guys he's knocked out weren't that well known. Before them it was Matt Lindland and Terry Martin. To be fair his only losses in the ufc are against the pound for pound best fighters in the world. Gotta give him credit for fighting both of them. He also has super fast hands, huge ko power and really great BJJ. He's like a technical Chris Leben.
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                          • poopoo333
                            MMA *********
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 18302

                            #58
                            I will definitely be on Markes, I overlooked this fight. He shoud be in the mid -200s but if his line is worse than expected I will find something to parlay.

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                            • edman5555
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 6628

                              #59
                              I feel like Markes will be able to take Craig down at will.
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                              • edman5555
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 6628

                                #60
                                Or close to it, that sounded kinda dramatic. Congrats on last nights big win again BTW. Are you going to increase the size of next years bankroll with all this new cash? You should. You are doing well now.
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