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He did beat Massenzio and Wallace (0-3 UFC)... he barely beat Wallace- I think that could have easily gone to Wallace (I remember because I bet it). Stann is good slugger, but with different matchmaking, he wouldn't even be in the UFC IMO. Massenzio and Wallace aren't exactly top 10 proving wins.2012: +19.33
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I think Sonnen would probably beat Vitor, but it's certainly not guaranteed. I'd like to see it. Before the Jones fight Sonnen should really have to beat at least one guy at 205, though.
I also LOLd a bit at the end of that vid:
Cruz: "I think you're building up quite a line, man."
Sonnen (smug and slightly disgusted look on his face): "Bring 'em on."Last edited by SPX; 01-21-2013, 02:57 PM.I heart cockComment
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Yeah chael has some balls. Gotta give him that. Vitor is a little crazy with the title shots. He justs demands them without wins in that weight class. I think he is worse than Chael.1 unit = 300 $Comment
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You could easily engineer of murderer's row of guys and make him 0-4 pretty quickly, but that doesn't mean that he's not a solid striker with improving T3D and grappling abilities. Give the dude his due: He's come a long way since his WEC days and even come a long way since his first couple of UFC fights.
I say if he's not top 10 then he's only a slot or two outside of it. Def top 15.I heart cockComment
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Yeah, Jones is going to steam roll Sonnen. Sonnen was taken down by Anderson Silva before he pulled off the reversal in their 1st fight. Jones is probably going to submit Sonnen or just dominate him for 5 rounds. I strongly believe Sonnen and Jones are kind of buddy buddy and they are going to be putting on an act to sell the fight based on what I have seen.Comment
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Oh I don't even think The UFC is trying to pretend that Sonnen earned his shot at Jones (unless you count the "he's the only one that stepped up" rhetoric). I really do not see any way for Sonnen to win this. I feel that Jones is a better wrestler and his GNP actually hurts people. I would laugh my ass off if Sonnen beat him somehow though. I would love to see Belfort/Sonnen for the belt.2012: +19.33
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Supposedly Sonnen has TRT'd his way up to 235-240 pounds. He is a good wrestler himself. Its not impossible for him to take Jones down for a couple rounds. He will probably get killed though. He must be getting paid well.1 unit = 300 $Comment
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There's a big problem with this theory. Belfort has never gassed in a Middleweight fight. His middleweight (and Franklinweight) fights consist of 1 first round KO loss against Andy Silva, and 6 victories inside the first two rounds. To be fair, he's never gone the distance in a MW fight either, but you can't blame him for the fact that his opponents keep taking naps in the first couple rounds. I think modern MW-TRT Vitor is the best Vitor.
I also think it's one of the big myths about him that he can't win a decision. Vitor had several decision wins back in his LHW career (Yvel, Zikic, Herring, Matsui). It's generally when he gets wrestlefucked that he fades late. Several rounds of "cardio kickboxing" from Bisping was never going to do it alone. Does anyone really think that if Bisping had recovered from that second headkick that he would have come back to take the last three rounds on points?
Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything that makes me think Vitor's TDD is much improved, and it's made worse by the fact that he likes to hang out on his back and go for submissions instead of getting back up. In his fights against Jones and Johnson, he only got back to his feet on his own once, all the other (5 or 6?) times he got up were from referee restarts or the bell. And as nice as those headkicks were against Bisping, throwing those things often gets him in even trouble against wrestlers than he would be already. I'm also a little bit afraid that someone is going to leg-kick the crap out of him someday like Shogun did to Machida. I think every one Bisping threw landed effectively.
Who I'd be happy to see Vitor fight: Belcher, Boetsch, Philippou, Lombard, Rockhold, Le, Leben, W. Silva
Who I want him to avoid: Sonnen, Weidman, Jones, A. Silva, Shields, Anyone at LHW (if he wants to fight a guy at LHW, he should make them come down to 195 to challenge him for his Franklinweight belt).
Not sure: Okami, Munoz.Comment
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BOL, probably talking about how he's a Champion of Life.
Or maybe he means his old LHW belt that he "won" from Randy.I heart cockComment
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