UFC 157

[Ludo]

That's hilarious.

I will say though that I think Rousey is going to get figured out. As soon as someone with some good T3D and stand up comes along, Rousey's going to get blasted. I actually would not be shocked to see Cyborg beat her.

That could take a while, years in fact. By then she'll likely have improved her all around game substantially, too. Womens MMA is still in the dark ages. Womens MMA today is about where MMA was in the early late 90s-early2000s. Being great at one thing and being able to implement that one thing will still carry these fighters for a while. Everyone is mostly just a wrestler or just a brawler or just a grappler or just a kickboxer at this point in Womens MMA. Rousey being world class at something gives her an edge since there's not a whole lot you can do in 12 weeks of camp to prepare for someone who could do their thing against the best in the world at that thing, let alone against someone who isn't also an expert at it.

Rousey may pretty much just be a Judoka in MMA, but by the time the rest of this division really starts developing she might have developed good hands and a guard, and she'll still be the best judoka around.

[SPX]

I dunno. Tate took her back. Carmouche took her back AND damn near RNCd her. So it seems to me like the girls out there aren't THAT far behind her grappling wise. And on the feet she's shown very little.

I honestly think if she fought Cyborg the line should be pretty close to even.

[Mr. IWS]

I think I might take Cyborg in that one. He is so fuckin powerful, He might just toss her on her takedown attempts and blast her on her feet.

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah, I would take Cyborg in that one for sure. Dana doesn't wanting Cyborg coming in and killing the fun like he did when he fought Carano.

[edman5555]

I had the same thoughts about rousey. Her department is grappling and she almost got choked out by carmouche. That says a lot. She did get the armbar though, and again in the first round.

[poopoo333]

I think Rousey is too confident in her grappling and does not care if she is in bad positions because she "knows" she will get out of them. That's not good because all it takes is one mistake. It seems to me that when she goes for the judo throws/trips and fails, she falls straight down or gets put in an awkward position where her back can be taken.

[SPX]

Yeah.

I think if she keeps fighting at the pace she's been keeping we'll see a loss before a lot of people expect it. I'm really intrigued by the Cyborg fight. That's her biggest test out there right now.

[poopoo333]

UFC 157 Rousey vs. Carmouche Fighter Salaries

Ronda Rousey: $90,000 (includes $45,000 win bonus)
def. Liz Carmouche: $12,000
Lyoto Machida: $200,000 (no win bonus)
def. Dan Henderson: $250,000
Urijah Faber: $100,000 (includes $50,000 win bonus)
def. Ivan Menjivar: $17,000

Court McGee: $40,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus)
def. Josh Neer: $16,000
Robbie Lawler: $105,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Josh Koscheck: $78,000
Brendan Schaub: $36,000 (includes $18,000 win bonus)
def. Lavar Johnson: $29,000
Mike Chiesa: $30,000 (includes $15,000 win bonus)
def. Anton Kuivanen: $8,000
Dennis Bermudez: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Matt Grice: $8,000
Sam Stout: $52,000 (includes $26,000 win bonus)
def. Caros Fodor: $15,000
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Kenny Robertson: $16,000 (includes $8,000 win bonus)
def. Brock Jardine: $8,000
Neil Magny: $16,000 (includes $8,000 win bonus)
def. Jon Manley: $8,000
Nah-Shon Burrell: $12,600 (includes $7,000 win bonus)
def. Yuri Villefort: $6,700*
*Burrell missed weight and a percentage of his fight purse, totaling $700, went to Villefort; another $700 went to the athletic commission.
UFC 157 Rousey vs. Carmouche Disclosed Fighter Payroll: $1,173,300

[SPX]

I hope Carmouche made more than that. Faber should also be making more.

[MMA_scientist]

I have to say, if I could get $250k to show, I would probably take steroids to prolong my career too. Hendo is making more than I would have thought.

[edman5555]

I wouldn't be suprised if hendo, machida and faber got ppv percentages.

[Svino]

Wow, how did Robbie Lawler get a deal like that?

[poopoo333]

Strikeforce contract.

[SPX]

Lawler's been around for forever, people know him and he's a fan favorite, so it doesn't surprise me that he's making money. I don't think he should be making more than Faber, though. (Faber should be making more, not Robbie less.)

[Luke]

Hendo and Machida were overpaid for their boring ass fight