2013 Off Topic Thread

[poopoo333]

I can't even name 5 people in the batamweight division so that's not much to brag about

Faber/McDonald is going to be very interesting. That's like for the #1 runner up to runner up spot

[SPX]

I can't even name 5 people in the batamweight division so that's not much to brag about

It's for damn sure a stronger division than heavyweight, which has like 5 good fighters total.

And here you go: Cruz, Barao, Faber, Menjivar, Mizugaki, McDonald, Wineland, Assuncao, Jorgensen, Pickett. That's 10 and you should know who all those guys are.

[Luke]

It's for damn sure a stronger division than heavyweight, which has like 5 good fighters total.

And here you go: Cruz, Barao, Faber, Menjivar, Mizugaki, McDonald, Wineland, Assuncao, Jorgensen, Pickett. That's 10 and you should know who all those guys are.

Stronger than the HW division

[Luke]

Most of those guys ran from 145 because they couldnt cut it there.......including Faber.

[SPX]

Stronger than the HW division

Dude, the heavyweight division is like the weakest, most hilarious division in all of MMA. The fact of the matter is that other than the guys at the very top, they are just not all that skilled.

Did this somehow escape your attention or something?

[SPX]

Most of those guys ran from 145 because they couldnt cut it there.......including Faber.

Faber wasn't really big enough for 145 but nonetheless, even at 145, he was winning against everyone but the very best. 135 is more suitable due to his size.

[Luke]

Faber wasn't really big enough for 145 but nonetheless, even at 145, he was winning against everyone but the very best. 135 is more suitable due to his size.

How can you say he wasnt suited for 145,the guy was champ at 145 for years? Now he can't beat Mike Brown, Aldo, Cruz, and Barao, but I'll admit Faber is top 5 in that division....but after holding the belt at 145 for years saying your top 5 at batamweight is about as good as saying you won a gold medal at the Special Olympics .

[poopoo333]

Who'd win at 145? Faber or Kyle Maynard?

[SPX]

How can you say he wasnt suited for 145,the guy was champ at 145 for years? Now he can't beat Mike Brown, Aldo, Cruz, and Barao, but I'll admit Faber is top 5 in that division....but after holding the belt at 145 for years saying your top 5 at batamweight is about as good as saying you won a gold medal at the Special Olympics .

That's to imply that heavier weights hold more intrinsic value than lighter weights.

Faber was champ at 145, but the competition wasn't as strong. I think the Brown losses were actually pretty flukey and guys like Aldo are just way too big for him.

The dude is like 5'4". 135 is clearly a more appropriate weight class for his frame and, while I think you could've made a strong argument for it being a weak weight class 4 years ago, it is pretty well established now with some elite talent. You seem to be stuck in 2009.

[Luke]

That's to imply that heavier weights hold more intrinsic value than lighter weights.

Faber was champ at 145, but the competition wasn't as strong. I think the Brown losses were actually pretty flukey and guys like Aldo are just way too big for him.

The dude is like 5'4". 135 is clearly a more appropriate weight class for his frame and, while I think you could've made a strong argument for it being a weak weight class 4 years ago, it is pretty well established now with some elite talent. You seem to be stuck in 2009.

Flukey? He lost twice to Brown. What elite talent is at 135? I see one guy, Barao. Besides that you have Cruz....a gimp...and Faber....a past his prime former champ.

[Svino]

I'll be Weidman but that's not the point...Luke is correct and I was JUST thinking about that. All the "veterans" are not competitive at the top 3-5 guys in their weight classes anymore (except for Anderson..I think Weidman is his kryptonite to be honest). GSP/Hendricks is pretty damn interesting but I lean GSP for sure.

The question is: Is it the result of fighters weakening due to age, or is it that they were never as good as current fighters. I think it is a little of both, but I think it is mostly about aging.

I wouldn't say that about WMMA though. There, I think it is mainly about better athletes getting into an obscure sport.

[Luke]

The question is: Is it the result of fighters weakening due to age, or is it that they were never as good as current fighters. I think it is a little of both, but I think it is mostly about aging.

I wouldn't say that about WMMA though. There, I think it is mainly about better athletes getting into an obscure sport.

I think that's the case(in all of MMA, not just women's). I wouldn't say the older guys weren't very good . The times have just passed them by

[Luke]

Leandro "Feijao" Souza, 26, a Brazilian mixed martial arts fighter who was scheduled to compete on Friday in a flyweight bout at Shoot 43 in Brazil, died Thursday at the weigh-in for the event, a prominent Brazilian trainer confirmed via Facebook. Andre Pederneiras, the coach of the powerful Brazilian-based Nova Uniao team that numbers UFC champions Jose Aldo and Renan Barao among its members, confirmed Souza's death.
MMA Fighting, which first reported the death, quoted teammate Andre Santos as saying the death was related to Souza's weight cut.
In his Facebook post, Pederneiras said the cause of death remains unknown.

Damn.

[poopoo333]

Also the new guys are just getting better.

[edman5555]

Flukey? He lost twice to Brown. What elite talent is at 135? I see one guy, Barao. Besides that you have Cruz....a gimp...and Faber....a past his prime former champ.

Am I the only one that thinks faber has looked good recently?