Matt Mitrione Suspended by the UFC

[SPX]

Matt decided to dedicate a segment of his Mitrione Minute on the MMA Hour to Fallon Fox and the UFC is not amused. He's been suspended.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/4/8/...ox-transphobia

To see Matt's comments, skip to 14:45:

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/4/8/4194168/the-mma-hour-with-conor-mcgregor-miesha-tate-matt-mitrione-melvin

[edman5555]

He was a little harsh but he does make some sense. Fallon fox is a man that is fighti women.

[zY|]

I was ready to defend Matt, because I like the Mitrione minute and assumed he was just making jokes, but lol no. That was pretty bad. What the hell was he thinking?

[zY|]

He was a little harsh but he does make some sense. Fallon fox is a man that is fighti women.

Not according to a legion of people who actually know what they're talking about.

[SPX]

He was a little harsh but he does make some sense. Fallon fox is a man that is fighti women.

I make no claim to really understanding the science regarding gender reassignment surgery, transgender people, etc. I do know that at one time Fallon Fox WAS a man. But is he/she now? That is, does he now have male sex organs? Does he has male levels of testosterone?

If biologically Fallon Fox is a girl now then she's a girl, regardless of what the case was in the past. At least that's how I see it. It's my fair assessment.

I was ready to defend Matt, because I like the Mitrione minute and assumed he was just making jokes, but lol no. That was pretty bad. What the hell was he thinking?

Yeah, he broke bad. He had to know that would not end well for him. And LOL at setting the stage with rape jokes.

[zY|]

Rereading my last post, it comes off pretty dickish. It wasn't intended that way; I was just referring to this article.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/3/8/...-on-fallon-fox

[SPX]

^^^ Will be reading that later. Looks interesting.

[Ludo]

From some standpoints the gender reassignment surgery leaves no advantage in the way of testosterone and whatnot. But you can't change bone density, skull and jaw formation, larger hands/longer arms, or the way muscle groups have already formed and some of the other basic physiological differences between men and women besides sexual organs and the production of testosterone. Fallon Fox without a doubt has advantages simply by having grown up into an adult male.

[SPX]

So do you think the advantage is to the point that she shouldn't be allowed to compete? I mean, structurally, she certainly doesn't seem to have any advantage over the likes of, say, Cyborg. Or even a thicker, obviously bigger boned girl like Sarah Kaufman.

[Svino]

Yeah, I won't claim to be certain, but I doubt very much that Fallon Fox is carrying any significant advantage over from her former sex. And Mitrione's comments are completely over the top regardless. I think some sort of suspension is a good move on the UFC's part.

[SPX]

I'll say:

1. I don't agree with Mit's comments.
2. I don't think he should be suspended.

Basically, I guess I think it comes down to freedom of speech. He wasn't speaking as a UFC representative. He was just giving his individual opinion on something. Maybe it's a shitty opinion, but he has a right to it.

[poopoo333]

Would you guys fuck Fallon Fox?

[SPX]

Maybe if she looked like this all time and not just in this one picture:

[zY|]

I'll say:

1. I don't agree with Mit's comments.
2. I don't think he should be suspended.

Basically, I guess I think it comes down to freedom of speech. He wasn't speaking as a UFC representative. He was just giving his individual opinion on something. Maybe it's a shitty opinion, but he has a right to it.

Freedom of speech just means he can't be arrested for his comments. It doesn't mean a private company can't discipline a contractual employee. I'm not sure I agree with the suspension, either, all that said. Although, I really don't care either way. What are they going to suspend him for, 3-4 months? He probably won't even miss a fight.

[SPX]

Freedom of speech just means he can't be arrested for his comments. It doesn't mean a private company can't discipline a contractual employee.

That's true, but if they're American, they should espouse American values.

Speaking of which, I think I'm going to get one of these shirts:

I'm not sure I agree with the suspension, either, all that said. Although, I really don't care either way. What are they going to suspend him for, 3-4 months? He probably won't even miss a fight.

I figured as much. The "suspension" is really just a PR thing. They don't really give a fuck.