Silva's Defense: Tainted Blue Sex Magic - What does this mean for his legacy?

[Ludo]

AFAIK, he was only fined 380K although that is still pretty steep. His 200K win bonus and 30% of his 600K show money. He also made an estimated 6 million on PPV points though.

You're right. I don't know why I remembered 800,000. Even still, I don't think we've ever seen an mma fighter fined that much for one offense.

[Éire]

You're right. I don't know why I remembered 800,000. Even still, I don't think we've ever seen an mma fighter fined that much for one offense.

This is true. I believe recently, the commission has been taking their entire win bonus and around 30% of their show money. For example, Hector Lombard was banned for a year and fined 53K + 17.5K (33% of his 53K win bonus). It does seem like a little much though, I agree.

[SPX]

I also think it seems harsh but then again maybe this is what needs to happen to get people to quit doing that shit.

[CriticalHit]

Yeah the fine was hefty on its own but relative to his purse it was less than 10%.

[SPX]

Yeah the fine was hefty on its own but relative to his purse it was less than 10%.

What do you mean? What was his purse?

[Éire]

What do you mean? What was his purse?

His purse was 800K + around 6 million from PPV points.

[SPX]

His purse was 800K + around 6 million from PPV points.

I hear quotes like this all the time but how does anyone know? I've never seen PPV points actually documented. So basically what I'm saying is: Source?

[Éire]

I hear quotes like this all the time but how does anyone know? I've never seen PPV points actually documented. So basically what I'm saying is: Source?

It turns out it was a false report. Given that he was on PPV points though and the PPV sold about 750K, he made a lot more than his disclosed pay.

http://www.mmamania.com/2015/2/9/8004213/ufc-denies-withholding-anderson-silva-payout-following-failed-drug-test-mma

[CriticalHit]

Yeah, I was going off of an estimation from his reported pay and the insight we've gotten over the years on PPV point tiers.

With the buys that card got and his reported UFC pay he should have cleared 4 million at the least.

[Luke]

I think the severe part is a $380,000 fine. I mean, Jesus. That's not pocket change.

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr was fined $900K and his failed drug test was for pot

[Luke]

I think he probably takes the Bisping fight and then retires with the win.



Haha, I think you're good there, man. Machida is for sure one of the least sketchy fighters on the roster.

I told someone the other day that I think they'll do Silva-Sonnen 3 at UFC 200, or another card. Can you imagine the drug testing that would happen for that fight?

[Éire]

I told someone the other day that I think they'll do Silva-Sonnen 3 at UFC 200, or another card. Can you imagine the drug testing that would happen for that fight?

Oh, I forgot about that one. I think that'd be great. I think Sonnen would finally take it, lol.

Both get busted. :P

[SPX]

Yeah, I was going off of an estimation from his reported pay and the insight we've gotten over the years on PPV point tiers.

With the buys that card got and his reported UFC pay he should have cleared 4 million at the least.

I'll be honest, I never have understood the PPV points thing. I mean, I get that they get a percentage of the PPV's sold, but I've never seen a source that tells us exactly how much.

[Luke]

I'll be honest, I never have understood the PPV points thing. I mean, I get that they get a percentage of the PPV's sold, but I've never seen a source that tells us exactly how much.

PPV points are you get X amount of dollars for every PPV buy over a certain amount.

Say you get $3 for every PPV buy over 300k buys. If Silva-Diaz did 800K buys, Silva would get another $1.5 million on top of his base salary.

[zY|]

I don't think it affects his legacy much. I also believe it was a one time thing, probably used as anxiety about healing his leg up. It was pretty obvious he was past his prime in the 2nd Weidman fight, and further solidified in the Diaz fight.

That said, that complete and utter sham of his defense at the hearing was just mind-boggling.